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French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Post by explorer83 »

Kuinox wrote: post #111
explorer83 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think France is generally perceived here to have more progressive social policies regarding labor, education, healthcare and the environment. The limited media coverage I've seen about French elections seemed to paint Macron as the candidate more representative of those values.

Macron is not a fan of theses social policies, he is right leaning. His governement reduced labor protections, butchered educations, worsened public healthcare, and do nothing for the environment.

Im not arguing the point. It's a sad state of affairs. But Le Pen was painted here as a female version of Trump. So that's why Macron was perceived as representative of French progressiveness.

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Post by [deleted] »

orlondow wrote: post #118
littlestymaar wrote: post #83

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Moreover, I wonder how they can even force the manufacturers into making a custom solution for their hubris. Unless the idea of adding such a remote switch seduces Xi and now there's a big enough market for this feature to be developed…

The law does not force manufacturers to do anything, this is just pure fabrication from OP.

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Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Post by AmericanChopper »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #117
zirgs wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any physical assault is potentially life threatening. One unlucky fall on the pavement and that's it - you can easily die or become permanently disabled. Yet another reason why it's better to deescalate and/or run away if possible.

Yep, and this is the logic that is followed by judges: self defense is pretty much only valid if you had no other option. Run away. Always run away.

> self defense is pretty much only valid if you had no other option.

Running away is a good idea for many reasons, but very few US states or foreign jurisdictions have a duty to retreat as you’re describing here.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Post by maitredusoi »

franky47 wrote: post #112

In the mean time, the French government is also sending out a call for projects [1] that increase cybersecurity, digital sovereignty and promote encryption of data. Just not for the common folk, but for startups. I find it funny (/s) that my current project is funded by the French government to develop end-to-end encryption in web applications [2]. Am I a terrorist too? [1] https://www.bpifrance.fr/nos-appels-a-proje…

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Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Post by quickthrower2 »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #39
croes wrote: post #32

So I guess the French government doesn't use encryption, otherwise ... What about HTTPS? Suspicious.

Isn't HTTPS required by GDPR?

Nothing an EU mandated root cert won't fix.

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Post by willis936 »

franciscop wrote: post #25
sofixa wrote: post #17

As others have mentioned, context matters a lot. The arrested group came back from Syria (where they fought alongside YPG against ISIS) radicalised, and were monitored ever since then. Their alleged crime isn't using Signal, it's just that a French anti-terrorism law allows to be arrested for "organisation with the intent to commit terrorist acts", which the DGSI(internal intelligence services) claims a radicalised g…

It should be very clear IMHO; they have nothing, if they caught the group with "a bunch of hunting weapons and ammunition" then they can arrest them for that and that'd be a lot more serious ground for the argument of "intent to commit terrorist acts". Since it seems they don't have anything, they are criminalizing normal tools and dev tools because your average reader/citizen doesn't know the difference between a ha…

At least in the US it is illegal to stockpile materials for making explosives without explicit licensing.

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Post by conradfr »

marvin wrote: post #95
bambax wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The situation in France is dire and crazy. This will not end well.

I have had well-educated French acquaintences telling me for a decade that France is ripe for a new system of government; the 6th in its history. Many current problems stem from the fact that post-war mechanisms written into the governmental system are abused by the president and elected leaders. E.g. presidential overruling of parlamental votes.

We celebrate the revolution and throwing out the king while basically electing a new one every five years that will magically solve all of our problems.

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Post by derelicta »

marvin wrote: post #95
bambax wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The situation in France is dire and crazy. This will not end well.

I have had well-educated French acquaintences telling me for a decade that France is ripe for a new system of government; the 6th in its history. Many current problems stem from the fact that post-war mechanisms written into the governmental system are abused by the president and elected leaders. E.g. presidential overruling of parlamental votes.

yup. thats why some folks love to call the current political system a "presidential monarchy", due to the overreaching executive powers granted to the president of the republic.
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