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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by xaitv »

nashashmi wrote: post #53

The Reddit wars have begun. Users were misled to believe they have power. And now are completely bewildered when they realize they don’t have as much power as they thought. The funny thing is that this is all over a stupid API that was causing more harm to Reddit than it was functioning as a public service. Apps were functioning as alternatives to the Reddit website and app. The whole thing about API back in 2000s is…

I think the current pricing of Reddit's API isn't meant to recoup costs of maintaining the API, it's meant to kill 3rd party apps so people switch to the official app, which shows ads. It's not so much the cost of maintaining the API than it is the cost of missed ad revenue.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by chongli »

fabian2k wrote: post #55
blueblob wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your Reddit posts absolutely can have personally identifying information and therefore are subject to GDPR.

But we're talking about mass deletion of all your content here. If you specifically mention your real name or address or something like that in a post, it's a different situation.

I think the fact that all of your posts are tagged with your userid means they can all be traced back to you, making them all personal information. It's not hard to see how, for example, some employer might get ahold of your Reddit userid and crawl through your post history, looking for any opinion of yours that they don't like.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by Etrnl_President »

nik736 wrote: post #66
reustle wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FIND ALL COMMENTS WHERE USER = 12345 AND UPDATED % is > 90%; REVERT ALL COMMENTS

Yes, but that's even crazier when the platform is basically messing with your posts and comments. That's not what a community is. They can generate content that fits their content strategy themselve then, this way they don't need users!

This is what Cybercommand was about, before AI got smart enough to fool most people.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by zoky »

danpalmer wrote: post #78
popey wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used Power Delete Suite to remove all comments from all public and private subs. They all came back today. So I re-deleted them again. I suspect it's more likely the site didn't process the deletions properly, rather than maliciously bringing them back, or as you suggest, that they were private. Edit: It's possible that the deletion only worked on public posts, after all, it seems?

Absolutely this. I highly doubt Reddit would want to fuck this up at this point for seemingly minimal gain. Much more likely that a 10x increase in deletions caused some pipeline to collapse somewhere.

As much as I hate to give Reddit the benefit of the doubt, I think you’re right that Hanlon’s razor may well apply here, albeit substituting incompetence for stupidity.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by atomicfiredoll »

scandinavian wrote: post #23

I really think they are just misunderstanding something. When I look at my profile, there's no comments, but I know there should be some. Isn't it more likely that when a subreddit you posted in goes private, the comments don't show up. The people in the linked thread ran the delete script after some subreddits went private. Now when some are made public again, so are their comments. Comments that were never deleted…

From my observation you're right about how comments work regarding private communities, so this is plausible. Before going straight to a conclusion, I'll just caution it's also possible that both things are true.

I'll wait and see how this plays out (while deleting my comments from the previously private communities.)

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by roomey »

delusional wrote: post #62
Xen9 wrote: post #51

In the role an evil reddit CEO, I would restore bulk-deleted comments but disconnected from the accounts that made them and allow GDPR requests via carefully hidden form. This would disable my users / victims from deleting their stuff (thus decreasing the value of my platform temporarily) while probably complying with GDPR. I would also consider copying Twitters URL shortener. Muhaha

Do you even have any GDPR related rights when talking about anonymous comments left on a messageboard?

Yes, particularly as it isn't anonymous, and GDPR covers internet handles.

If Reddit were to fight this in Europe (which is what would happen) I imagine they would loose

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by sebzim4500 »

ddalex wrote: post #118
m-p-3 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt that is GDPR-compliant.

Does reddit have any kind of business presence in the EU ? How would the EU law be enforced?

Presumably there are EU companies paying them for ads

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by cmcaleer »

nik736 wrote: post #66
reustle wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FIND ALL COMMENTS WHERE USER = 12345 AND UPDATED % is > 90%; REVERT ALL COMMENTS

Yes, but that's even crazier when the platform is basically messing with your posts and comments. That's not what a community is. They can generate content that fits their content strategy themselve then, this way they don't need users!

> the platform is basically messing with your posts and comments

Wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last time.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-stev...

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by robertlagrant »

Hendrikto wrote: post #17
fabian2k wrote: post #6

Where does the idea come from that not allowing users to delete content is against the law/GPDR? You have the right to ask for deletion of personal information they store, and even that has certain limits. You don't have the right to force the company to delete content unless they granted you that right via the licence somehow. Whether this is a good or bad idea for a company to do is a different question. But I don'…

> You don't have the right to force the company to delete content [relating to you] In the EU, you definitely do.

Well, within reason. You need a policy that allows this to happen, but, for example, it can't just reach into 3 months' worth of PIT database backups. But you can say "we will delete your user now, and your data will roll out of our backups after 3 months." That's reasonable while still delivering the main objective: companies can't keep your (identifiable) data forever.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by dotnet00 »

ddalex wrote: post #118
m-p-3 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt that is GDPR-compliant.

Does reddit have any kind of business presence in the EU ? How would the EU law be enforced?

They sell their Reddit Gold in the EU and sell advertising space to European companies.
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