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I read it. It’s bizarre. They’re so convinced of their preferred ideology that they refer to indoctrination as simply “becoming a better person”. One doesn’t come across such intense blindness of self like that very often. Steer clear.

The whole point of an ideology is to give you a way to view the world. If you didn't believe it was better than other ideologies there would be no point in that ideology. It's not self-blindness to believe in what you claim to (although that's not to say I believe what they believe).

> The whole point of an ideology is to give you a way to view the world. If you didn't believe it was better than other ideologies there would be no point in that ideology.

I don’t see why these two are intertwined. You can believe in a certain idea while at the same time be open that it can be flawed or outright wrong. The point of an ideology is that something could be true. Not that something is.

But maybe this is the agnostic bias in me talking.

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The whole point of an ideology is to give you a way to view the world. If you didn't believe it was better than other ideologies there would be no point in that ideology. It's not self-blindness to believe in what you claim to (although that's not to say I believe what they believe).

> The whole point of an ideology is to give you a way to view the world. If you didn't believe it was better than other ideologies there would be no point in that ideology. I don’t see why these two are intertwined. You can believe in a certain idea while at the same time be open that it can be flawed or outright wrong. The point of an ideology is that something could be true. Not that something is . But maybe this i…

All that means is that you have an ideology that's further up the chain that makes you strongly oppose anyone making strong value statements, except for that people should always be open to other things as long as they don't contradict you in this principle.

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> It wouldn't surprise me if they continue to defederate any instance with open registration. We're back to dodging Eris, are we?

> We're back to dodging Eris, are we? For those that don’t know: > Initially, most IRC servers formed a single IRC network, to which new servers could join without restriction, but this was soon abused by people who set up servers to sabotage other users, channels, or servers. Restriction grew and, in August 1990, eris.Berkeley.EDU was the last server indiscriminately allowing other servers to join it, Eris being the…

I learned why efnet is called efnet from your comment. Very interesting, thanks!

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That's not an issue, that's the intent of federation. It's IRC/Forums etc but at a larger scale where you can more easily connect to similar channels and forums. You either accept that communities have the right to self-police whom they can talk to or not, or accept that you want a central authority to do that for you.

IRC and forums have nothing to do with federation. Maybe IRC if you look at the channel level, but there's still network-wide rules you need to follow or get banned, just like forums have one or more admins with a final say. The fediverse is just random scattered kingdoms having fragile connections. There have been so many attempts at it for the past 20 years or so, but people just don't want to accept that it cannot…

Whenever you get a bunch of people together you have to have rules or you get the inevitable mentally ill person who starts to troll or try to spread racism. Think 8chan or 4chan on steroids. It just has to be done. Hopefully the rules are permissive enough to allow reasoned debate on topics between diverse opinions. However I don't need to know your political leanings in all caps while discussing the latest news so pitch that guy off. If I'm being rude or ranting pitch me off.

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The problem is that a complete graph doesn't really make sense because people are different and find different things acceptable. I don't want Nazi shit on my reddit replacement. I'm assuming a lot of people here wouldn't want theirs to be full of commie shit. Then there's the religious nuts etc etc. Think of it less as censorship and more as community self-segregation. I wouldn't go to a Nazi bar or Sunday school in…

Do you care if your email provider happens to give accounts to Nazis or communists or religious nuts, if you never happen to exchange emails with them? Do you care if your web host happens to host their websites? Why should a "federated Reddit replacement" have to be any different? If you subscribe to subs X and Y and Z, and none of that stuff is in those subs, does it matter to you if the instance (or other instance…

I don't, but I don't want to see it either or allow them to see my stuff since I'm extremely anti-nazi and anti-fascist and don't them to come trolling me. Nor do I want them using my resources to try and bring young impressionable people into their fold.

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> have the power to decide who's a part of their network. Former Reddit mods are going to love this feature. Now when they are power-tripping or they don't agree with another instances users views on a topic, instead of just banning the users, they can ban entire instances/communities from participating in one fell swoop.

Reddit mods already have bots that do this for them. Subscribing to/commenting in the wrong subreddit will get you banned from a whole host of subreddits.

That's the reason I got banned. I posted in one anti-covid sub a study that refuted one of their pseudo science ones and got banned from 8 or 10 popular subs, most which I didn't even join, and warned if I ever dared post there I would get banned from reddit. And yet there is no reddit feature where you can see where you are "banned" from. It's ridiculous. I didn't even care but a lot of stuff hits r/all and you can easily go into those groups and comment on something. Banning should mean you can't enter or post in a sub, but it doesn't. That's how glaring "reddit features" are and how awful some mods are as human beings.

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Beehaw became a hub for the exodus largely through a misunderstanding—they were already active when Lemmy exploded, so a lot of the exiles found their way into their communities, but Beehaw's culture is in a lot of respects incompatible with Reddit's. It was only a matter of time before they decided preserving their community was more important than sheltering all of Reddit's exiles. I highly recommend reading Beehaw…

I read it. It’s bizarre. They’re so convinced of their preferred ideology that they refer to indoctrination as simply “becoming a better person”. One doesn’t come across such intense blindness of self like that very often. Steer clear.

One isn't improved by a wave of redditors calling you cucks/commies/soy bois/touch grass. I think beehaw has a stated purpose and if they want to defederate, they should. No system is going to be perfect.

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Lemmy and Kbin are opensource, so there are no dev costs. That’s a big one. The other is hosting. Of course servers aren’t free, so each instance will need to figure out how they keep the lights on. Way back in the before times (2000), we used to host forums on our own computers, or pay for basic hosting. Maybe $50/m, though it’s much cheaper these days. This was fine because we went to these forums for topic-specifi…

I miss forums. But every forum I frequented in the early 2000s eventually shut down, and we lost the data forever. I don't see how federated servers will be any different. At least with Reddit, there's an entity working towards building a sustainable solution to keep it running. That is, until some moderators decided to close the communities and hide our contributions. Anyway, my point is: vote with your feet and lea…

I hate to tell you but some day reddit's data won't be available either. That's why you have groups like r/datahoarders and archive.org
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