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Re: Tell HN: Google search sucks even more during Reddit blackout

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I never worked in search, curious what are the technical difficulties of implementing a YouTube-style "Don't Recommend This Channel" are? From the outset, the YouTube recommendation can be an offline process, and much easier to scale. Google pretty much has "F-you" level developer man-power to throw at this problem, so I'm somewhat surprised they haven't implemented it yet (the "bad result is good for Google" reasoni…

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Re: Tell HN: Google search sucks even more during Reddit blackout

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I'd just like to note the irony of saying how bad Google is while at the same time saying that Google's general purpose search engine is still better than any of the specific search engines of these individual sites. Perhaps the issue isn't that Google is bad, and the issue is that search is incredibly hard.

No I disagree, because this simply wasn't the case a few years ago. Back then I could just search something, and Google would give me results, and that was it. It wasn't too long ago when googling was a proper skill to be learned and it felt like that could get you anywhere on the web. Google was exceptional once. Now Google won't even acknowledge "" anymore, and having to hold its hand and guide it towards a single…

You hit it exactly. It never was this bad, and now it's all junk results. And even worse, every page is the same junk results. It just repeats. It's maddening.

Re: Tell HN: Google search sucks even more during Reddit blackout

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd just like to note the irony of saying how bad Google is while at the same time saying that Google's general purpose search engine is still better than any of the specific search engines of these individual sites. Perhaps the issue isn't that Google is bad, and the issue is that search is incredibly hard.

No I disagree, because this simply wasn't the case a few years ago. Back then I could just search something, and Google would give me results, and that was it. It wasn't too long ago when googling was a proper skill to be learned and it felt like that could get you anywhere on the web. Google was exceptional once. Now Google won't even acknowledge "" anymore, and having to hold its hand and guide it towards a single…

The answer is somewhere in between pushing people to click ads, the zealous bias towards automation, the pivot towards AI (no, the one that happened in 2016), and (tinfoil hat time) the influence of entities that saw Google's previous adroitness at quickly connecting the average person with specific and accurate information as a threat.

Re: Tell HN: Google search sucks even more during Reddit blackout

#124

Ironically, LLMs could be a game-changer in dealing with SEO noise, not at the search stage, but during the indexing of web pages. By understanding context and semantics, they could help create a more refined and relevant index, effectively cutting through the clutter of SEO-optimized content.

And then all these sites will start implementing LMO (language model optimized), and we will lose it all, once again.

Re: Tell HN: Google search sucks even more during Reddit blackout

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I'd love the following combination: * A search engine that only crawls and searches a whitelist of sites. * Community functionality to vote on the contents of the whitelist.

>* A search engine that only crawls and searches a whitelist of sites. Great way to kill neutral, organic web?

That’s basically Google already. They optimized for a few sites and let the rest go to shit.
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