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The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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post #39

You're looking at remnant inventory. Inventory (advertiser speak for "a page view plus a slot available on that page which we could sell an ad against") are a lot like cuts of meat. Some are worth a lot of money. Some are not, and end up getting sold to be turned into fertilizer or paste to infect cows with all matter of diseases. Things that tend to make inventory worth more money: 1) Better matching algorithms. Thi…

Can you please write a book? Thx.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

#122
I recently appointed a legal firm. Today I saw their ad embedded as copy looking for cheap clicks via google content network. Screenshot here http://portablepixels.com/images/google.png

Seems to me like Google are stooping to new lows. The ad makes me feel like the legal firm I have appointed are selling diet pills and Im minded to terminate my relationship with them. Cheap clicks can be costly.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

#123
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, government policy has a huge effect, for one it created the nation of chain smokers. What Google does is monetize the products of our school system, the school system produces mindless consumers incapable of producing on their own. Google connects these dependents of the state to the people who can produce the goods they need to live. If you want to change what Google promotes simply transform the school system…

I'm in favor of a lot of ways to fix this problem. What I cannot abide is the whole "people are stupid and want stupid things, I'm just fulfilling their stupid demands" excuse. What hope does this world have when its best and brightest are content with swindling money out of the ill-informed?

None, whatsoever. But what alternative do the "best and the brightest" have? After all, in order to keep being "the best and the brightest" they do need to pay rent (and have an occasional steak dinner).

What value is there in educating if one can simply purchase social capital when one needs it?

Exhibit A: http://www.facebook.com/BPTeamUSA

Exhibit B: http://www.altria.com/en/cms/Responsibility/investing-in-com...

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

#124
post #5

Install AdBlock Plus. Solved. Not that big of a deal, huh?

I see that I somehow have made the entirely wrong point. I didn’t say that it’s sad that I have to wade through ads. As it happens, I have this “reader” thingie in Safari, which solves the ad problem and the readability problem in one click or keypress. The thing I was trying to say that makes me sad is that there is a generation of smart people toiling away with the power of what may be the world’s biggest computing…

I don't know how exactly people got the wrong idea from your article, it's certainly not on you. I definitely understood the extension of the "I see the greatest minds of my generation showing ads" idea from a few months ago. Do you think it's a fad? I hope it is. I'd love to see more people trying their hand at making things worth paying for. It's flip but any more I get this Kanye West lyric stuck in my head reading about startups: "Do anybody make real shit anymore?"

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

#125
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post #81

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It's a comment, not a debate. I'm not trying to crush raganwald's constructive and collect many finger snaps from the judges. I'm just trying to explain how Internet advertising works for a community which a) viscerally despises advertising, b) often dreams of working for an advertising company, and c) even if they don't work directly for the ad company will have their careers determined in large part by their abilit…

Patrick, your argument is flawless, but you've become a bit of a robot. There must be some reason why they don't put Marlboro ads in a lung cancer clinic or a Ballantine's ad in an alcohol rehab center. Surely they would be perfect choices for the well-defined audience that frequents those places and they would make perfect sense economically, more than whatever else they put on those walls. Someone might even come a…

Patrick is talking about how things work today. You seem to be trying to convince him that they should work differently. (Maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't. I'm not going to comment on that right now.)

You're talking past each other.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

#126
post #28

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"Nice browser yous gots there... would be a shame if something were to happen to it, eh? Like if some ads was to get put on the pages... 10 bucks a month, me and my boys 'take care of' that for yous". The Google Protection Racket

What makes it qualitatively different from typical subscription-or-ad-supported services?

I would be a little put off if Google were to sell ads, then turn around and sell the opportunity to never see those ads. Seems wrong, like they're saying to the advertisers "Oh sure, we'll get your great ads out right away, all of our customers will see them!" and then saying to the rest of us, "If you're sick of those annoying ads (which we put up), just pay us and we'll make them go away!"

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

#127
The worse thing is that Google lets ads like the "look younger" one buy time. They offer a sample to try for free, but if you don't return it they sign you up for a year's subscription for a $100 a month and you also get charged for the "free" sample. Simple ripoff.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

#128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in favor of a lot of ways to fix this problem. What I cannot abide is the whole "people are stupid and want stupid things, I'm just fulfilling their stupid demands" excuse. What hope does this world have when its best and brightest are content with swindling money out of the ill-informed?

None, whatsoever. But what alternative do the "best and the brightest" have? After all, in order to keep being "the best and the brightest" they do need to pay rent (and have an occasional steak dinner). What value is there in educating if one can simply purchase social capital when one needs it? Exhibit A: http://www.facebook.com/BPTeamUSA Exhibit B: http://www.altria.com/en/cms/Responsibility/investing-in-com...

> "After all, in order to keep being "the best and the brightest" they do need to pay rent (and have an occasional steak dinner)."

Plenty of people pay rent and eat well and aren't complicit in scams and get-rich-quick schemes. Plenty of people have jobs that pay well and don't pander to the lowest common denominator and reinforce ignorance...

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

#129
Another day of "5-minute Google Hate Sessions"? Google leaves webmasters the freedom to customize and place ads however they want. Physorg.com opted for the scumbag strategy of mixing ads and content, so it's 100% their fault.

Plus, the entire waxing lyrical about kids being fed ads for games is simply ignorant: he sees those ads because his advertising profile matches those interests, regardless of the page is looking at in this particular moment. A kid interested in dinosaurs might see ads for plastic dinosaurs or paid trips to natural history museums.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to learn Facebook has resumed his paid mud-slinging campaign, these days people are clutching at the smallest straws just to badmouth Google.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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post #88
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a comment, not a debate. I'm not trying to crush raganwald's constructive and collect many finger snaps from the judges. I'm just trying to explain how Internet advertising works for a community which a) viscerally despises advertising, b) often dreams of working for an advertising company, and c) even if they don't work directly for the ad company will have their careers determined in large part by their abilit…

Patrick, your argument is flawless, but you've become a bit of a robot. There must be some reason why they don't put Marlboro ads in a lung cancer clinic or a Ballantine's ad in an alcohol rehab center. Surely they would be perfect choices for the well-defined audience that frequents those places and they would make perfect sense economically, more than whatever else they put on those walls. Someone might even come a…

I think you and Patrick are illustrating the philosophical distinction between "is" and "ought".
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