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Post by the_lonely_road »

toyg wrote: post #14
wkat4242 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder.. The very same thing hardly seems to have hurt Twitter.

Personally, when someone mentions tweets nowadays, my first impulse is to ridicule / discount it all - "what, are you seriously using a service Elon bought to promote far-right topics...?" Typically it comes out of my mouth in a more moderate stance, like "sorry, I don't use Twitter anymore. Any chance you could link a better forum?"

The most charitable reading of your comment still leads one to question what you would consider the right if Elon is far right. I am pretty sure he is a moderate leaning both ways on differing topics.

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Post by Sakos »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #2

All this backlash is going to kill Reddit. It will take a thousand little cuts for sure, but it started the moment they announced their ludicrous pricing.

I'd like to move away from Reddit, but I don't see any viable place to go. The best thing about Reddit is how generally casual the user base is. It's not just a self-selected number of tech-affine users. It's people who love books, people who love running, or video games, or space, or literature, or knitting, or anything and everything else.

Reddit has centralized what would otherwise be hundreds (thousands?) of obscure, splintered and isolated communities and forums. What could possibly compete with that without having already reached critical mass and become an obvious competitor to Reddit?

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Post by callumprentice »

Waterluvian wrote: post #77
andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

You made something that people got a lot of value out of. That’s incredible. The actual code and commits are just the journey. They’re not the product. I’m rather delighted every time someone shows a realistic journey full of all the things we all experience, but some of us pretend don’t happen. Thanks for being vulnerable and sharing this.

What a completely lovely way to express what I expect many of us are thinking. Thank you.

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Post by newsclues »

trollied wrote: post #8

There's a Reddit CEO AMA later today: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ce... Can't see it being anything other than a PR disaster for them, unless they change their stance.

The clowns at Reddit couldn't even specify a time.

This will be a spectacular shitshow to watch.

Re: Apollo Back end just made public

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Post by jarym »

doublerabbit wrote: post #59
gtsteve wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some options spring to mind: 1. All rights reserved - the source is visible but not open. 2. AGPL, to ensure that if someone does take this forward, no part of it can be closed source without your agreement. 3. MIT, which is extremely permissive and effectively you don't care what someone does with it, commercial or not. Depending on your comfort level I would start with the middle option, I don't think people tend t…

All rights reserved feels more the right kick to me Gives those who wish to learn and stops from anything taking the future glory.

Agree, would be awful if Reddit themselves just decide to lift and reuse this!

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Post by aeyes »

tiffanyh wrote: post #45

Dumb question: why does Apollo need their own backend API when isn’t Apollo just a different view/UX for Reddits own API? https://github.com/christianselig/apollo-backend

This is only used for the push notifications in the subscription version of Apollo. I haven't checked the code but it probably polls the Reddit API with the users OAuth token and sends a push to the Apollo app if new activity is found.

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Post by andremedeiros »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #16
andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

> A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time — a balance between something that works and something that was cost effective for Christian. The way…

The Reddit API usage is as efficient as it can be, server wise, although I’d like to be proven wrong by them.

As far as the app goes, an average of ~330 reqs/user/day is pretty good, considering they built the platform budgeting for 86,400.

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Post by madeofpalk »

trollied wrote: post #8

There's a Reddit CEO AMA later today: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ce... Can't see it being anything other than a PR disaster for them, unless they change their stance.

The AMA is confusing - I don't understand what questions they expect to recieve, and how they'll answer them to anyone's satisfaction.

Re: Apollo Back end just made public

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Post by aeyes »

eterm wrote: post #21

Politically reddit have played a blinder. They've succeeded in killing their main competitor (in terms of ad share) and could even now walk back the api charges for any smaller operators and leave Apollo dead and avoid the biggest backlash. It's scummy as hell and I won't want to continue to contributing to reddit, but I can't help but feel they've been shrewd in getting what they wanted.

Why would that leave Apollo dead? If they set the API charges back to zero all third party clients, including Apollo, would be happy to continue.

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Post by carlmcqueen »

andremedeiros wrote: post #4

Hi all! I wrote this code, and for educational purposes, I’d be more than happy to answer any questions. A gentle reminder that the whole history is here for show. This is very vulnerable — you can see the times I was in a rush, or when I took my time. You’ll find my mistakes. Either way, all I ask is please be kind. I know there are 50 things I could have done better, but this is a product of the reality at the time…

Having to ask people be kind about your code on HN is such a shame of reality to me. Half of brilliance is having your working version, used by many people. You had working code that brought reddit to so many reddit users every day that was better than what the official app of reddit provided.

Some of the 'code' running massively profitable departments in finance are spreadsheets, on shared drives, with thousands of linked cells thought up by a brilliant employee who left the company five or six years in the past.

I wish I was kidding.

Thanks for how great you kept apollo.

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