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Why so long? Are you using it for work?
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Do you have any negative side effects? My brother has sinked many hours into it and it seems to have become a huge issue for him socially in the “real” world.
First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
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Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#122I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing. Their sales pitch was "it makes it amazing to read articles in safari"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E&t=5410s $3500 to... look at a floating web browser? Surely they can come up with something. Give me UV/IR vision, let me see the pipes under the ground, show me how to assemble the furniture I'm looking at, give me a template to pain…
Apple is IMO attempting to brute-force create a market here. Facebook/Meta couldn't do the job - for one, Zuck has no idea what he's doing other than chasing buzzwords, for other, they have destroyed a lot of user trust over the past years. And I'm not sure if the stock could take more billions sunk. Apple in contrast? They deliver a whole different game in terms of quality and capability, and now others will take up…
Yeah I can't wait to spend €11000 so my family can strap a screen to each of our faces and watch movies like that rather than staring at a dumb old TV like some kinda poor people
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#123> Namely, 5,000 patents filed over the past few years and an enormous base of talent and capital to work with. It was mentionned in the keynote as well...should Apple really brag about their patent minefield in a field that is in need of more players and more efforts to push it forward ? > In many cases it literally hurt to do so. Not with the Apple Vision Pro – text is super crisp and legible at all sizes and at far…
They advertise the "4K per eye" as some kind of an advantage. They need to do this to have 3D vision, but it doesn't improve the resolution, it's still just 4K. And the 4K is across your whole FOV, I would like to see a comparison with some standard monitors (4K at 27" and 32") at particular distances from your eyes. I suppose because they didn't publish anything it is still significantly worse than hi-res monitors (…
For comparison the top of the line PSVR2 does 2K per eye, hooked up to basically a PC made for gaming
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#124At USD$3500, who is it for? And who will develop software for something with such a small user base?
is it really this difficult to project 3-5 years into the future where this thing is cheaper, more powerful, and has an app library ... because all of the actual pros bought the launch model to develop software for it in 2024? then give it a 24-36 app dev cycle and you're going to hit the adoption curve. in about 5 years. this is literally how every single thing has worked in this industry for like 50 years now. are…
It is difficult because Apple has never dropped the price in any of its products, aside from one time offers.
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#125Same pattern over and over, futuristic hardware, closed source software. This looks boring to me. I don't expect anything ground breaking from it. It's gonna be an iphone sticked to your eyes. Those big tech companies remove all the fun and excitement we used to have with new hardware. We know how it's gonna behave and it's limitation before it's released to the public.
You say you don’t expect anything groundbreaking and then compare it with arguably the most groundbreaking product ever
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#126At USD$3500, who is it for? And who will develop software for something with such a small user base?
> At USD$3500, who is it for? I thought it would be absurd to be wearing these goggles in the street. Then I thought that at home it would also be strange being with the family with those things on the top of your head. I thought "This is perfect for people who live alone". And then it dawned on me: the killer app for this is p0rn.
p0rn has always been the driving force behind most tech - VHS, DVDs, HDTV, 3D, etc
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#127> Namely, 5,000 patents filed over the past few years and an enormous base of talent and capital to work with. It was mentionned in the keynote as well...should Apple really brag about their patent minefield in a field that is in need of more players and more efforts to push it forward ? > In many cases it literally hurt to do so. Not with the Apple Vision Pro – text is super crisp and legible at all sizes and at far…
> > Namely, 5,000 patents filed over the past few years and an enormous base of talent and capital to work with. > It was mentionned in the keynote as well...should Apple really brag about their patent minefield in a field that is in need of more players and more efforts to push it forward ? That I didn't understood. Should that be a message to the competition? What should that tell me as a developer? What should tha…
The message is to shareholder/investors;"This is defensible, We have moat".
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#128I'm curious if anyone's tried using the Varjo VR-3 as a monitor replacement? The Vision Pro seems like it might be in the same league. It's got this unique setup where the central focus area (27° x 27°) is a uOLED display with 70ppd and 1920 x 1920 px per eye, while the rest of the view is over 30ppd on an LCD display with 2880 x 2720 px per eye.
While they're not directly competing (given that the Varjo is entirely wired and lacks the key attraction of Apple's software and ecosystem), they do seem to be somewhat comparable in terms of price and resolution.
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#129Is anything known about health risks? I could imagine that if the eye no longer has to focus on distance, that this could lead to refractive errors more quickly with excessive use.
Or did I miss here something?
Re: First impressions: Yes, Apple Vision Pro works and yes, it’s good
#130I don't understand why there is no AR or VR killer app for this thing. Their sales pitch was "it makes it amazing to read articles in safari"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkq9Rgoj8E&t=5410s $3500 to... look at a floating web browser? Surely they can come up with something. Give me UV/IR vision, let me see the pipes under the ground, show me how to assemble the furniture I'm looking at, give me a template to pain…
I think 'killer app' is missing the point.
Looking for a killer app you are looking at this to be a traditional VR or even AR device, that is not what this is.
This is about having a screen anywhere, multiple screens and turning anything into a screen and any environment into one, hence the name Vision Pro, that is how Apple are trying to sell it.
If you watched the keynote I think that was clear, everyone else seems to missing the point and comparing this to traditional headsets.
The fact when they showed gaming, it wasn't a VR or AR game, it was a traditional game on an AR screen says it all.