Biological weapons are not used by the US due to practicality, not morality. 1. It's difficult to manufacture biological agents in large quantities. 2. It's hard to store biological agents for long periods of time, since living things tend to die. 3. It's hard to disperse biological agents over a large area. Spray tanks require flying at low altitude at slow speeds, or multiple deployments at high speeds. Munitions w…
CIA, MKUltra, and the cover-up of U.S. germ warfare in the Korean war (2022)
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Re: CIA, MKUltra, and the cover-up of U.S. germ warfare in the Korean war (2022)
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Bioweapon labs in Ukraine is one of Putin's stated reasons for the Invasion. Allegedly work was being done on targeting specific ethnicities, like slavs. Ukraine was a very politically corrupt country, for a long time. Would not surprise me if this was true. This is one of Putins and his supporters Krokodil inspired fever dreams that never existed, Russia also said they wouldn’t invade the day before they did. They…
I base my opinon on the following: 1) Gain of function research was being done in China by Ecohealth Alliance, funded under a program headed by Fauci. The most logical motivation for this is bioweapon research. Testimony to this fact was solicited by Rand Paul in congress. Covid was made in a lab. 2) The US did send Al Qaeda prisoners to Black sites in Eastern Europe for enhanced interrogation (torture). This establi…
Your opinion appears to be a fever dream that has no basis in reality. What you posted in no way shape or form follows or proves anything that you posted previously.
Re: CIA, MKUltra, and the cover-up of U.S. germ warfare in the Korean war (2022)
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
yes, this is why we're on the brink of WWIII. Allegedly Putin is outraged at the betrayal.
But why would Ukraine be engineering bioweapons targeting themselves?
Top $ paid to officials, military aid grants to the country, US security assurances.
The research could be done by outside companies, just used Ukraine as a black site to get around existing international laws.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would the US work with its biggest rival to generate new WMDs where they would have to trust their biggest adversary to deliver the WMD? Why would they use limited and public NIH money as opposed to an almost infinite and (in some parts) very secret military budget?
Because this type of research was banned in the US. Fauci was the highest paid federal employee for a reason. Labs were setup in Ukraine and other parts of the world with funding coming through NIH.
The conspiracy theorists are here to downvote lol.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Examples? Is there any domestic crime as well?
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Russia is essentially finished if not now, then definitely due to their demographic collapse.
People thought China was the next big empire to take on the US but after their ongoing real estate collapse, the ongoing failure of belt and road, and their eventual population bomb leading to a demographic collapse that is probably worse than Russia how can anyone see them overtaking the US?
Originally I thought that maybe China can make up for its woes by way of immigration and assimilation with Bent and Road 'colonies' but having traveled to one of their closeest B&R partners(Pakistan) recently, none of their partners are in a good position themselves to help China out. Plus I don't think China is really open to immigration. In the end I suspect the 'friendships' with China will last only as long as the money keeps rolling in.
Who else is left on this planet that could take on the US? India? EU? Both have serious flaws that limit their reach.
Re: CIA, MKUltra, and the cover-up of U.S. germ warfare in the Korean war (2022)
#126Biological weapons are not used by the US due to practicality, not morality. 1. It's difficult to manufacture biological agents in large quantities. 2. It's hard to store biological agents for long periods of time, since living things tend to die. 3. It's hard to disperse biological agents over a large area. Spray tanks require flying at low altitude at slow speeds, or multiple deployments at high speeds. Munitions w…
Do we really know what the current capabilities are. It would be top secret. It's been decades of research. I would expect many of these issues have been worked around. I used to think AI was fictional pipe dream. Yet it came to be. > 1. It's difficult to manufacture biological agents in large quantities. Yet the covid vaccine was manufactured in huge quantities in short time. > 2. It's hard to store biological agent…
Re: CIA, MKUltra, and the cover-up of U.S. germ warfare in the Korean war (2022)
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tend to believe it was a lab leak, but the bioweapon angle never made sense to me. It made more sense as a model to study HIV since I think it uses the furin cleavage site from there. Bioweapons are just too non-selective to be useful as far as I can see, and even if you do have a cure in your back pocket, they can easily mutate or you may have issues distributing cures to your own people. Lest we forget, some covi…
This one may have been a leak of unfinished product rather than a release. The vaccine was already in development at that time. A lot of people made a ton of money.
Evidence:
* The name "Sputnik V" (Fifth Follower) suggests that the vaccine was developed following something, IMHO it was a biological weapon, and that it was the fifth attempt to create a vaccine. It is highly unlikely that Russia could have created and tested five vaccines within a month.
* After an explosion[2] occurred in the biosafety level 4 laboratory "Vector" on September 16, 2019, rapid response soldiers entered the facility and conducted floor-by-floor inspections for signs of fire. They forcibly entered the laboratory without proper protection and also stole equipment from the premises. One such incident was captured on video [0][1] (note the soldier pouring water from a bucket behind the laboratory director during an interview).
* Shortly thereafter, an epidemic of an unknown respiratory virus, causing severe complications, broke out in Siberia, leading to overwhelmed hospitals. SARS-CoV-2 has a high fatality rate when combined with swine flu (IFR 5.4%), but without it, the mortality rate is relatively low, and the symptoms are mild, making it difficult to detect.
* Russia has started deleting videos related to the laboratory explosion at the "Vector" facility and the subsequent epidemic. This suggests that they consider these videos as evidence that could harm Russia.
* It is highly likely that infected soldiers carried the virus into China when the World Military Games began in Wuhan in October 2019[3].
[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7SAeNcXA8
[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20200407175030/https://www.youtu...
[2]: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/17/health/russia-lab-explosi...
Re: CIA, MKUltra, and the cover-up of U.S. germ warfare in the Korean war (2022)
#128Reading this, my meta conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theories are rarely false, it's just that talking about them at all disqualifies you from being invited to participate in them. Your option is either to be a practical conspirator by joining in, or remain on the outside as a just theorist.
> conspiracy theories are rarely false I think you might be unaware of how many conspiracies there are. Any major event at any point in history most likely has a conspiracy attached. This goes exponential the closer you get to present day.
Re: CIA, MKUltra, and the cover-up of U.S. germ warfare in the Korean war (2022)
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the comparison is the Holocaust and Gulags, you know yoy're near rock bottom
It’s a fair comparison. Frankly the Nazis are overrated. Nazis: ~6 million Soviet Union: ~20 million China Cultural Revolution: ~30 million Though the Soviet Union and China ones were more of a result of incredibly bad economic policies. The Soviets still killed ~1-2 million in Gulags directly. Let’s also not forget the Japanese genocides against China. Nanjing, Unit 731… There also is, of course, more recent ones th…
0: http://web.archive.org/web/20160709210523/https://www.svobod...