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Re: Ableton Push 3

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Sounds terrible in the video. If that is the best it can do... :(

A bit of a heavyhanded way to put it, but one of the strengths of Ableton in my experience has been how easily you could import third-party plugins to supplement the lackluster native tooling. If you can't bounce those plugins to the Push along with a project, that severely gimps the functionality.

Re: Ableton Push 3

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I own a Push 1 and 2, although at hobbyist level. The standalone Push 3 seems a great step forward. macOS has increasingly become user-hostile when it comes to audio (and other pro) users. For instance I have an expensive sound card that became useless with after a minor OS upgrade. I never got to troubleshoot it or find an official solution. That was incredibly discouraging - enough to move on to other hobbies. And…

>> And I'm a programmer - don't want to imagine the pains that musicians have to go through. Anyone doing it professionally will check all of their plugins/hardware has support for the latest macOS version before updating.

I DJ for money though I wouldn’t say professionally. I have a separate 2015 MacBook Pro with all my software installed and it’s not connected to the internet except to transfer new songs and manual updates to it.

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post #63

So they built a Linnstrument? Honestly don't know who was first, but I know I looked at the Linnstrument a long time ago (when my daughter Linn was really young, she's 13 now). The Linnstrument looks better and has more buttons, and more is better, right? https://www.rogerlinndesign.com/linnstrument

And Linnstrument is open source. And is a generic MIDI controller that works with any MPE compatible synth and any MPE VSTi instruments - such as Audio Modeling. The Push doesn't support VSTi.

Re: Ableton Push 3

#124
Very hard to compete against Push as Ableton refuses to document their nightmare of an API. Even with Push source code decompiled, it's very difficult to make sense of it all.

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#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Logically yes, but anyone who’s been doing it for more than a couple years has been burned by an update at least once and won’t easily make that mistake again.

The mistake here is not the apple update but lack of backups.

The mistake here is that assuming things will forever remain the same and thus you don’t need to update your software, when security enhancements require it.

Re: Ableton Push 3

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post #21

I own a Push 1 and 2, although at hobbyist level. The standalone Push 3 seems a great step forward. macOS has increasingly become user-hostile when it comes to audio (and other pro) users. For instance I have an expensive sound card that became useless with after a minor OS upgrade. I never got to troubleshoot it or find an official solution. That was incredibly discouraging - enough to move on to other hobbies. And…

I’m not updating my music Macbook Pro anymore, I’m still on MacOS Catalina. VST’s break, (older) audio drivers stop working, etc. I spent too much time getting everything to work as it currently is.

Re: Ableton Push 3

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Logically yes, but anyone who’s been doing it for more than a couple years has been burned by an update at least once and won’t easily make that mistake again.

The mistake here is not the apple update but lack of backups.

Even if you properly backup everything and can downgrade after an update, you’re still burned by an update if it breaks your software. Which is why most musicians will be at least a major OS version behind, giving vendors the time to update.

Re: Ableton Push 3

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post #21

I own a Push 1 and 2, although at hobbyist level. The standalone Push 3 seems a great step forward. macOS has increasingly become user-hostile when it comes to audio (and other pro) users. For instance I have an expensive sound card that became useless with after a minor OS upgrade. I never got to troubleshoot it or find an official solution. That was incredibly discouraging - enough to move on to other hobbies. And…

Musician here, most of us (the ones that aren't also programmers) just have to pay up the arse every time for every thing. I've been teaching myself keys the last few years and had been planning to one day get myself a big $6k stage keyboard, when I felt that I had sufficiently developed to warrant it. I have since tried out Zynthian, and my conclusion was that with a pianoteq license and a good controller, I can hav…

Nords are for gigging artists that want every feature accessable via physical controls on the device with minimal setup. If you are willing to bring your laptop on stage there are probably better cheaper options. That being said used Electro's can be affordable and they are really fun devices to own. There is also a nice small community of people hacking on them. My current hobby project is reverse engineering the electro 5

Re: Ableton Push 3

#129
post #21

I own a Push 1 and 2, although at hobbyist level. The standalone Push 3 seems a great step forward. macOS has increasingly become user-hostile when it comes to audio (and other pro) users. For instance I have an expensive sound card that became useless with after a minor OS upgrade. I never got to troubleshoot it or find an official solution. That was incredibly discouraging - enough to move on to other hobbies. And…

RME?

Re: Ableton Push 3

#130
post #63

So they built a Linnstrument? Honestly don't know who was first, but I know I looked at the Linnstrument a long time ago (when my daughter Linn was really young, she's 13 now). The Linnstrument looks better and has more buttons, and more is better, right? https://www.rogerlinndesign.com/linnstrument

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