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A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by quitit »

jfoutz wrote: post #40
CPLX wrote: post #37

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Very interesting. The concept has been soundly rejected in the US. Except for San Francisco. How’s that working out?

I think NYC is king of sunlight regulation https://www.nyc.gov/assets/oec/technical-manual/08_Shadows_2...

The inclusion of a solar-study to prove adherence to shadow regulation is a standard part of most types of development applications, not just in the USA but around the world. This kind of build out is regulated for many reasons: property damage, aesthetics, health, and with a renewed focus: energy use. This includes casting shadows over one’s own property.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by madaxe_again »

culopatin wrote: post #46
dmd wrote: post #33

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I have the exact opposite experience -- as someone who always wants two adjoining rooms (for kids). Doing that in a hotel tends to cost as much as 3 times what an Airbnb would cost, and the airbnb is more comfortable. You just need to actually read reviews.

Well you have a very particular scenario, but in most cases, having to clean up everything, take the trash out, doing dishes, cleaning grill, taking linens out, collecting towels and starting the washer while still getting kicked out at 10? And paying hundreds for cleaning on top of that? You can’t enjoy the last day and you’re paying for it.

You choose poorly, I’m afraid to say. I ask my guests to do nothing but lock the door behind them, and I don’t charge a cleaning fee.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by parasti »

CPLX wrote: post #32
jfoutz wrote: post #9

also, interesting they had to design it not to cast a shadow on that house """ But the decision to build an architectural icon didn't end problems - it started new ones. The most bizarre was with the U.S. Navy. In 1998, it refused to let Caltrans onto Yerba Buena Island to finish its engineering work. The Navy's issue was whether the Bridge would overshadow the one-time home of Admiral Chester Nimitz, a hero of World…

San Francisco is the only place I know with this bizarre obsession that things shouldn’t be allowed to cast shadows on other things, as a general rule. It’s just strange. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/SF-supervisors-...

Why is it strange? Sunlight is an extremely valuable asset, both physically and mentally. I actually find the opposite mindset (that sunlight doesn't matter) really strange.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by meindnoch »

w10-1 wrote: post #58

It's hard to imagine that sentimental navy brass can gum up a critical roadway for over a decade -- contributing to the many-billion-dollar increase in bridge cost from the original plan. The interplay between civilian control of the military and the military putting bases or jobs in every congressional district is dicey.

NIMBYism runs deep in California.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by casenmgreen »

dmd wrote: post #33
iLoveOncall wrote: post #15

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Yeah Airbnb has become so outrageously expensive and is so much less convenient than a hotel that it's almost never worth it anymore, it's crazy.

I have the exact opposite experience -- as someone who always wants two adjoining rooms (for kids). Doing that in a hotel tends to cost as much as 3 times what an Airbnb would cost, and the airbnb is more comfortable. You just need to actually read reviews.

I'm hearing AirBnB have for a little while now been playing fast and loose with reviews - genuine and fair negative reviews are being blocked, and it looks like this is to prevent (short-term) loss of revenue to AirBnB.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by culopatin »

madaxe_again wrote: post #122
culopatin wrote: post #46

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Well you have a very particular scenario, but in most cases, having to clean up everything, take the trash out, doing dishes, cleaning grill, taking linens out, collecting towels and starting the washer while still getting kicked out at 10? And paying hundreds for cleaning on top of that? You can’t enjoy the last day and you’re paying for it.

You choose poorly, I’m afraid to say. I ask my guests to do nothing but lock the door behind them, and I don’t charge a cleaning fee.

Yeah blame me all you want but you’re an exception, not the rule. Good for you though and I hope to find more hosts like you.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by CPLX »

parasti wrote: post #123
CPLX wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

San Francisco is the only place I know with this bizarre obsession that things shouldn’t be allowed to cast shadows on other things, as a general rule. It’s just strange. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/SF-supervisors-...

Why is it strange? Sunlight is an extremely valuable asset, both physically and mentally. I actually find the opposite mindset (that sunlight doesn't matter) really strange.

I mean of course it matters.

But it definitely ain’t a valuable asset, it falls on pretty much the entire planet, excepting the infinitesimally small portions that are directly next to tall buildings. Even Ireland and Seattle from time to time.

But either way, the link I posted is about San Fransciso not approving a low rise apartment because it could cast a shadow on a basketball court for a few hours A YEAR, which is, in fact, insane in an urban housing crisis context.

Re: A mansion hidden directly under the Bay Bridge

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Post by bobsmooth »

parasti wrote: post #123
CPLX wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

San Francisco is the only place I know with this bizarre obsession that things shouldn’t be allowed to cast shadows on other things, as a general rule. It’s just strange. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/SF-supervisors-...

Why is it strange? Sunlight is an extremely valuable asset, both physically and mentally. I actually find the opposite mindset (that sunlight doesn't matter) really strange.

Those in Plato's cave don't value sunlight either.
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