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Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by ipaddr »

sleepybrett wrote: post #116
hospitalJail wrote: post #110

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I'm with you on every crypto except Bitcoin, but nothing about bitcoin should make you nervous. Its nice you live in a country with a stable currency that doesnt hyperinflate. Not everyone has this luxury. Zimbabwe and Venezuela come to mind.

Look at all that virtue. Bitcoin started a literal tsunami of financial crimes, I feel bad for hyperinflated countries and if they find some use in bitcoin that's great for them, but I for one will stay the fuck away from anything blockchain related if I can help it.

That's how my grandmother feels about the internet.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by Turing_Machine »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #85
kipchak wrote: post #38

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I think at least some number of people will grow burnt out on addictiveness and want something else. While it may not replace addictive social media there's still potentially substantial value there, which to me seems similar the internet pre Facebook.

To me that seems about as likely as drug addicts suddenly growing tired of shooting up stuff and going into gardening as a hobby instead. Sure, it's not theoretically impossible, but I definitely wouldn't start a gardening platform targeting those people. Pre-facebook basically means a 90s style forum with highly specialised zed communities. You don't need decentralised approaches for that.

> To me that seems about as likely as drug addicts suddenly growing tired of shooting up stuff and going into gardening as a hobby instead.

I've seen a lot of people leave Facebook over the last couple of years. And I mean a lot. Oh, they might still log in every month or two to see what's up with friend and family, but daily use? Nope.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by Turing_Machine »

netbioserror wrote: post #118

This has zero chance of working if normies have to fiddle with keypairs.

There's no reason they have to "fiddle" with it. Generating a new keypair could be a button.

Normies use keypairs every time they connect to an https site. They just don't know it, nor is there any reason why they should.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by int_19h »

evilspammer wrote: post #104
int_19h wrote: post #100

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Your last point directly contradicts the claim that "100% of it is a scam". People do actually buy and receive those illegal goods and services; you might not like that fact, but it certainly isn't a scam at that point. And just so that we're clear, said "illegal goods" include, for example, generic drugs from other countries.

in fairness, of the cryptocurrency black market, 99.999% of that is scams too... I don't think it's recovered from the silk road and alphabay era?

I don't think Silk Road etc constitute the actual majority of the black and grey markets enabled by cryptocurrency. It's just where most of the media attention is because of stuff like "assassination brokers" etc. Most of it is really mundane stuff, mostly drugs (of either kind). Which is also where long-term repeat customers are valuable, so sellers are hesitant to lose reputation through outright scams.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by netbioserror »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #123
netbioserror wrote: post #118

This has zero chance of working if normies have to fiddle with keypairs.

There's no reason they have to "fiddle" with it. Generating a new keypair could be a button. Normies use keypairs every time they connect to an https site. They just don't know it, nor is there any reason why they should.

This is not a function of "could." They're already asking users to do it. If they "could," why didn't they? To make something easy, you first have to actually make it easy. Not let forum users argue about how easy it "could" be.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by ursuscamp »

xigoi wrote: post #101
throwaway4837 wrote: post #48

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If you don't like Bitcoin, you could always just get an address and if you get tipped, sell immediately. I don't see how this is any different than an app with "gems" you can buy and re-sell back to the app. Some games like Entropia[0] have a fixed exchange rate with the dollar, allowing you to "cash out" of the game, if holding game currency isn't your thing. It's just game currency essentially for the social app. W…

> I don't see how this is any different than an app with "gems" you can buy and re-sell back to the app. The difference is that the Bitcoin transaction will cause millions of computers to waste a serious amount of electricity calculating hashes over and over.

It uses the Lightning network, which is a separate network using off-chain transactions. The Lightning network crams upwards of infinite transactions into a single on-chain transaction, called a payment channel.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by p-o »

Today, we have a lot more bandwidth at home. I always wondered if having a "social network" device at home would make sense in the future.

I imagine a device like a router or an Apple TV, that you connect at home. Then, you own it, everything you post is on your little device. Maybe you pay a few bucks a months so you can upload an encrypted backup in the cloud somewhere.

There's obviously downsides to it, but I think I would buy such a device.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by password4321 »

p-o wrote: post #128

Today, we have a lot more bandwidth at home. I always wondered if having a "social network" device at home would make sense in the future. I imagine a device like a router or an Apple TV, that you connect at home. Then, you own it, everything you post is on your little device. Maybe you pay a few bucks a months so you can upload an encrypted backup in the cloud somewhere. There's obviously downsides to it, but I thin…

Sounds like a good app for an old phone!

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by ursuscamp »

dizhn wrote: post #107
dtdannen wrote: post #12

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How did you use it? The default setting is anonymous unless you reveal who you are. After I muted a small number of people and used some paid relays I don’t see spam or bad content. Coolest feature is that you can switch clients while keeping the same relays and all your data stays with you. Plus a bunch of clients have this auto translate feature so people are talking to each other regardless of the language they sp…

You are already paying for paid relays ? What is the reasoning? Congrats on your first comment by the way.

I used paid relays. The reasons are higher quality content. It works alright for spam prevention. Also, I use the nostr.wine filter relay, which is pretty neat. You can connect to it and it will pull notes from your web of contacts (your follows, plus their follows). Additionally, it will rebroadcast your notes to public relays.

It's a pretty nice way to keep your feed quiet (not spammy), but also allow your notes to make it out to the broader public nostr sphere.

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