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Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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Post by rektide »

archagon wrote: post #115
yreg wrote: post #113

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I get why people want the end of the App Store monopoly and I apprieciate the idea of being able to run anything I want on my hardware, but this here is the reason why I'm hesitant. As a user I want the big developers to have to bend the knee to Apple. I don't want to side load my DJI app, I don't want to download Instagram from the Meta store. I don't agree with all of Apple's rules (and also with the way the app re…

Then the future of computing will be in the hands of mega-corporations. Have an innovative app idea that goes against corporate policy? Too bad, won't happen. Strict sandboxing and a robust permissions model can still give you security with these kinds of apps.

It really bothers me that DJI is basically the one notable example that gives the anti-sideloading FUD-dites some ammunition. It's generally not a real issue, DJI are just extra punks, and yeah, sandboxing should offer really good protection in general, but maybe maybe your drone is live uploading all drone data to the CCP perhaps.

Freedom enables choice. Humanity's greatness is built entirely off our ability to explore possibilities & create new ways. Gating innovation behind what Apple & all the governments permit us is just not an option for the most important most noospheric device on the planet. Not having choices is to let ourselves be chained up in the PKD Black Iron Prison. I refuse that dejection.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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Post by FpUser »

Ancapistani wrote: post #106
FpUser wrote: post #41

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Few deer I saw did not seem to care at all about the drone. Neither have raccoons, beavers, squirrels, chipmunks and birds.

Are you in a relatively urban area? In my experience, a wild deer can hear a photography quadcopter from ~200' away. They "spook" if I approach closer than ~150'.

There is a farm I regularly pass on my bicycle and closer to the end of the summer they have boatload of deer coming in an wandering on the field. I have zero clue what they do on that field. Anyways those pay zero attention to my drone and go about their business whatever that is.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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Post by FpUser »

tristanb wrote: post #103
FpUser wrote: post #41

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Few deer I saw did not seem to care at all about the drone. Neither have raccoons, beavers, squirrels, chipmunks and birds.

If i'm in nature and i hear a drone, its annoying AF, and it just makes me want to throw rocks at it.

I hear loud music from drunk campers on the lakes way more often than I hear drones.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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Post by yreg »

rektide wrote: post #121
archagon wrote: post #115

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Then the future of computing will be in the hands of mega-corporations. Have an innovative app idea that goes against corporate policy? Too bad, won't happen. Strict sandboxing and a robust permissions model can still give you security with these kinds of apps.

It really bothers me that DJI is basically the one notable example that gives the anti-sideloading FUD-dites some ammunition. It's generally not a real issue, DJI are just extra punks, and yeah, sandboxing should offer really good protection in general, but maybe maybe your drone is live uploading all drone data to the CCP perhaps. Freedom enables choice. Humanity's greatness is built entirely off our ability to expl…

>Freedom enables choice.

One could argue that also for the freedom to choose a curated platform. Android exists and prospers, I have a choice.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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Post by rektide »

yreg wrote: post #124
rektide wrote: post #121

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It really bothers me that DJI is basically the one notable example that gives the anti-sideloading FUD-dites some ammunition. It's generally not a real issue, DJI are just extra punks, and yeah, sandboxing should offer really good protection in general, but maybe maybe your drone is live uploading all drone data to the CCP perhaps. Freedom enables choice. Humanity's greatness is built entirely off our ability to expl…

>Freedom enables choice. One could argue that also for the freedom to choose a curated platform. Android exists and prospers, I have a choice.

What happens when Android starts clamping down, as they have? Android ever more ratchets shit down, and more and more essential apps like Termux simply can't make it through the Google gauntlet. What happens if Android stops allowing sideloading?

I hear this defense a lot from the anti-sideloaders, that it's fine that this platform have no freedom, because there's another popular platform with some freedom. Even with the DJI example here before us (which so far has been icky but had no known actual bad consequences), I roundly do not get the argument, do not see the appeal of being trapped, of arguing everyone else on this platform needs to be under the fist of Cook & every government on the planet & without feet to stand on.

And it's repugnant to me that the defense is that there is one other platform where freedom exists, as if it's OK that one set of folks fall down the slippery slide & leave the rest of humanity tottering for themselves, trying to keep feet under them against perpetual universal software helplessness.

Apple has basically been winning the AT&T position against Carterphone. They've used monopoly power to control push around dominate & extract, to make up whatever terms it wants for the world. That's a position that damned & binds humanity, and one we have rejected already quite clearly, but now that computers are involved it's free game to coral the humans & other entities & to rollback the Carterphone right to modify the world about you.

There's one plan I'm OK with here, which is Apple can keep it's closed platform but has to let other OS run on iPhone & make equal use of the hardware. If apple demands control over iOS, I think that's an alternative out for hardware owners.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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Post by yreg »

rektide wrote: post #125
yreg wrote: post #124

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>Freedom enables choice. One could argue that also for the freedom to choose a curated platform. Android exists and prospers, I have a choice.

What happens when Android starts clamping down, as they have? Android ever more ratchets shit down, and more and more essential apps like Termux simply can't make it through the Google gauntlet. What happens if Android stops allowing sideloading? I hear this defense a lot from the anti-sideloaders, that it's fine that this platform have no freedom, because there's another popular platform with some freedom. Even with…

>There's one plan I'm OK with here, which is Apple can keep it's closed platform but has to let other OS run on iPhone & make equal use of the hardware.

This is an interesting idea. It sounds pretty good actually.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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Post by miohtama »

rektide wrote: post #79

DJI seems to be the one company that requires sideloading the Android app. DJI makes great products, but there's really few companies who I would trust less to give unvetted access to my phone. I know the Android app sandboxing should help a lot, but there's enough unknowns & potentially lurking security holes that I really wouldn't want to trust them. They also are 100% the most likely company on the planet to self-…

Is there any other reason to force sideloading except that China hates Google?

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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Post by vetinari »

yreg wrote: post #67
vetinari wrote: post #62

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Put the left stick down right (4-5 o'clock) and the right stick down left (7-8 o'clock). It will turn off the motors instantly.

Yes this is what I did. Good thing to know, by the way. Since you don't need it unless you need it, and then when you need it you absolutely don't have the time to look it up.

This command ("Combination Stick Command") is also useful in other situations: the same command can both start and stop the motors. It is exactly what you are going to use when launching and landing in your hand; once you are holding the drone in your hand, and you want to start or stop.

But now: how are you going to do it, when you are holding the drone in one hand, remote in another and do a command with both sticks? Don't you need a third hand for that? The answer is no. You need a lanyard for your remote. That way, you can use one hand for holding the drone and the other for pushing the sticks.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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Post by thinkmassive »

blululu wrote: post #84
FpUser wrote: post #41

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Few deer I saw did not seem to care at all about the drone. Neither have raccoons, beavers, squirrels, chipmunks and birds.

This strikes me as a rather callous lack of empathy. Personally, I find the mosquito whine of drones to be really annoying - especially when I am trying to enjoy the peace and serenity of a natural environment. There is nothing more obnoxious than going surfing only to have some creep buzz you with a drone. It's really intrusive and the sound is plain just obnoxious. I'm trying to enjoy the ocean like people have don…

I hear ya, but to your point about “some creep buzzing you,” at least you’re aware of it for now.

A silent drone could be much creepier...

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