Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech

Post by hhgf5yhbd » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 2:58 PM UTC

weston wrote: post #16

cemerick wrote: post #2

This news really highlights the confirmation bias that was in full bloom throughout the "discourse" around the initial reports of Lee's murder (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35448899 ). Everyone is so quick to jump on negative news about the rare violent crime in e.g. SF thanks to feelings about petty property crime that it's obviously impossible to have any kind of fact-based dialogue about policy. Worth…

Agreed! It was really disgusting how everyone immediately turned the news of his passing into political posts designed to trash the entire city of San Francisco, when it was obviously too soon for anyone to know the full story behind his unfortunate death. I hope this news brings his family and friends some closure.

Post by piva00 » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 2:58 PM UTC

pclmulqdq wrote: post #97

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #88

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So sorting by Violent Crime (Total), we see San Francisco is 37th out of the 100 listed.

Citing murder rates (and ignoring other crimes) is one of the preferred tactics of people who want to say that big cities have low crime rates. Police in big cities go after big crimes like murders, but tend to ignore "lesser" crimes, so as a result, gangsters and other career criminals stick to those lesser crimes, and generally do a lot more of them.

Post by jkestner » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 2:59 PM UTC

j4pe wrote: post #20

Joe Eskenazi, the author of this piece, is a solid journalist who helps run the tiny donation-funded Mission Local. They've done incredible reporting on corruption in the SF city government and punch way above their weight in the stories they break. I have respect for how Joe refused to join in reporting this murder as evidence of a violent crime epidemic, while still reporting on homelessness and property crime.

Post by pclmulqdq » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 2:59 PM UTC

cemerick wrote: post #84

nemo44x wrote: post #61

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> I wonder how likely it is that the same population will comment here to say, "I was wrong"? Sure, people were wrong in their assumption that the murder was random. At least that's how it looks now. We haven't heard the suspects side, but.... But wrong that SF has become a dangerous and mismanaged city? Murder isn't the only violent crime and a lot of crime goes unreported. People don't feel safe walking around and…

People see homelessness and open drug use and petty property crime, filter it through their ideological lens, and amplify that into feeling that they are themselves somehow less safe. You can assert that that is rational, but it's as connected to reality as someone feeling afraid when e.g. a black person is walking behind them. Saying stuff like "a lot of [violent] crime goes unreported" is straight up fanciful think…

Post by volkk » Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 2:59 PM UTC

vimax wrote: post #54

YourDadVPN wrote: post #19

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This seems like a bit of a reach. "Move fast and break things" to me means take risks, don't get bogged down in process or do the same thing everyone else is doing. I don't see how you get from that to stabbing people. Your other quote is nice but it's a bit silly to apply it to a literal stabbing.

When the person stabbed was the CTO of a company just accused a week earlier of fraud and facilitating illegal transactions, it may not be that silly. https://hindenburgresearch.com/block/