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Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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post #21

Wake me up when there's an EV that is just a car and not an always-connected surveillance device on wheels.

Chevy Bolt. There are others, too, not every EV is trying to copy Tesla.

Yes, OnStar, but that's 1) not specific to EVs, and 2) trivial to disable.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#123

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

I feel conflicted whenever I see a comment like this. On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently. But on the other hand, what if it's not true? What if you happen to have a friend or family member who works for a Paytm competitor, or you have some grudge against Paytm for whatever reason, and are instead spreading low-key FUD about the company to make it seem like they have lax data c…

This is why rule of law is important. India has weak rule of law... there's no confidence from anyone that wrongdoing will be punished and there's no confidence that making up stuff to hurt a competitor will be punished.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#124
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it is victim blaming. The expectation is that they're going to use that data to improve the vehicle, or something within that realm, not turn the videos/images into memes and then pass them around for the yucks. Edit: I'm open minded; in addition to downvoting, I'm genuinely curious why folk might think that I am incorrect here. Happy to correct my thought process.

Having sex in front of any camera tends to end in exactly one way. Their product line spells out "S3XY." Public technical failures are glossed over or ignored. Anyone expecting integrity from this company needs a reality check.

>Anyone expecting integrity from this company needs a reality check.

It's OK that some people are ignorant to what you, myself and many others are already well aware of. It doesn't make it their fault.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#125
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There will always be such employees, which is why actually privacy-minded companies strictly limits access to personal information, and carefully monitors the access of it.

It would be even better if that data was not collected to begin with. Alternatively, that this data would not leave the local hardware. But no.. everything has to be connected.

You're right of course. The very best way to restricts employee access to personal information is to never have it in the first place.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#126

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

You are right, I’ve worked at a bunch of companies with millions of users and access to data was almost out of control within the company. Management doesn’t really care, including the data protection officers and the likes. I only hope Google has better policies, with all the data we store in emails and in docs.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#127

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

I feel conflicted whenever I see a comment like this. On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently. But on the other hand, what if it's not true? What if you happen to have a friend or family member who works for a Paytm competitor, or you have some grudge against Paytm for whatever reason, and are instead spreading low-key FUD about the company to make it seem like they have lax data c…

Isn't this true of much of what you read on the internet?

Edit: I'm responding specifically to this: The issue is that there doesn't really seem to be a way to substantiate your anecdote.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#128
post #7

> Tesla staffed its San Mateo office with mostly young workers, in their 20s and early 30s, who brought with them a culture that prized entertaining memes and viral online content. Former staffers described a free-wheeling atmosphere in chat rooms with workers exchanging jokes about images they viewed while labeling. > According to several ex-employees, some labelers shared screenshots, sometimes marked up using Adob…

> managers should not encourage a culture of memeing and shitposting

a fish rots from the head down.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#129
> Meanwhile, one "former employee saw nothing wrong with sharing images, but described a function that allowed data labelers to view the location of recordings on Google Maps as a 'massive invasion of privacy.'"

I wouldn't trust Tesla's logging of privacy-sensitive data access by employees, but I suspect that Google could figure out which Google Maps accesses those were.

Maybe enough violated people could be found that way, such that the costs to Tesla will smack some sense of responsibility into them and any other tech companies that needs it.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#130
post #67

Wanted to get Model Y in the past. Nice comfy car, huge backseat and… a camera filming inside the car. Thanks no. Apparently for drowsiness detection, but I am not buying it. Time of flight camera staring at the driver’s face is kinda normal in car industry. Not a normal color camera filming everything and streaming somewhere like Tesla does.

At the moment, AP still uses steering wheel torque. Just put a piece of tape over the interior camera.

I'd be pretty surprised if any of the cameras routinely stream. Too much of a bandwidth hog.

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