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GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by bumby »

owenwil wrote: post #101
bb123 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Model 3’s system is one of the few out there that can actually compete with/replace CarPlay.

It _is_ excellent, but it is annoyingly ignorant of integrating with phones. If you have an Android phone you can send and receive texts, but no other notifications come in and nothing else is projected there either. If you have an iPhone, it works _sometimes_ but I am rarely able to reply to messages using voice successfully. I wish it better extended into my phone, but it's largely because of Apple's rules, which I…

While annoying, my real gripe is what this says about their development process. If you can’t get these things right, how can I trust that you will get the safety critical software right?

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by adrianmonk »

On top of obsolescence and consumer choice issues, I also just don't want to configure and manage all this stuff separately in my car.

It's going to support applications like Spotify. I don't want to sit in my car and get Spotify installed, get logged in, and get it configured on my infotainment system. Same with other apps and services. Same with my Google account. I don't want to do any of that.

When I bring my phone, whatever apps I care about are already set up and ready to go. It's just easier.

And I'm someone who can figure out how. Imagine how delightful it will be for people who aren't very tech savvy.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by scarface74 »

browningstreet wrote: post #9
bdcravens wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the only reason, but was definitely one reason that contributed to the decision to cancel my Model 3 order and go with a Kia EV6 instead.

I said my next car would have to have CarPlay but the Tesla software in my Y is good enough to live without it. I rent a lot of cars with CarPlay, and like it, but now that the Tesla software supports both Apple Music and Spotify, I’m good. That said, I wouldn’t buy a car that supported Google Carwhatever but not Apple CarPlay.

Supporting Apple Music isn’t enough. For instance, I use Overcast as my podcast player and it has excellent Carplay support.

I won’t buy a car that doesn’t support CarPlay.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by kulahan »

DeRock wrote: post #98
midnitewarrior wrote: post #74

This sounds like GM is committing brand suicide by actively making itself unappealing to Gen Z. https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/06/gen-z-survey-says... I love Android, but I also know how to read.

It's not just Gen Z, 79% of all US car buyers would only buy a car with CarPlay: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/22/apple-carplay-could-be-a-tro... GM will absolutely lose this battle. Idiotic move.

I'm glad to see that I'm not alone in that being an absolute requirement for a car purchase. I guess it's not surprising that GM is making another stupid move though.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

jonahhorowitz wrote: post #109

GM is probably ignoring that these products exist too. I haven't bought one, but I've been tempted to put one in my 2008 Civic. I'm sure they'll be even better and cheaper in a couple years. https://www.ebay.com/itm/204267444756?hash=item2f8f49da14:g:...

This is cool! I only wish it hooked into the car speakers.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by MBCook »

midnitewarrior wrote: post #74

This sounds like GM is committing brand suicide by actively making itself unappealing to Gen Z. https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/06/gen-z-survey-says... I love Android, but I also know how to read.

They’re dropping Android Auto (from your phone) too.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by kulahan »

voisin wrote: post #64
imwithstoopid wrote: post #58

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problem is (from GM's perspective), with CarPlay, Apple takes over the UX of the car...the Apple logo is the first and last thing people see when driving GM doesn't want Apple or Google taking over the UX of the car, because then GM is eventually just another FoxConn and sure, there's a money thing...they want revshare from Spotify and every other app they can position in the UI CarPlay and Android Auto will be gone…

> the Apple logo is the first and last thing people see when driving This isn’t how it works in my Dodge. There is a Dodge logo / startup screen first, then a “don’t use screen while driving sign that I am forced to accept every time ” and then it shows me CarPlay.

Same in my BMW. The last thing I see is also a BMW logo across all my dash screens.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

BLO716 wrote: post #53

After replacing the head unit in my Tacoma, I couldn't live my life w/o the modern amenities with Apple CarPlay, TBH. I drive my wife's Nissan and just so let down on the interface of early Rogues .. but at least the entire setup now comes up in a 2020 we drive. Anyway ... GM is shooting themselves in the foot on this one.

Which head unit did you choose? I’m looking to replace my factory default 2-din.

Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help

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Post by grepfru_it »

juve1996 wrote: post #47

> Kummer also acknowledged that there are "subscription revenue opportunities." Don't be surprised if you're paying a recurring fee for certain features like you already do with some brands. This is getting so tiresome. Not only have car prices exploded, now we have to pay for subscription features too. I just don't know how much more of this we can take. Companies no longer innovate. They all just rent seek because…

welcome to the service economy!
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