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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by nprateem »

killthebuddha wrote: post #114
modeless wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have reached "peak UI". In the future we're not going to need every service to build four different versions of their app for every major platform. They can just build a barebones web app and the AI will use it for you, you'll never have to even see it.

IMO you won't even need to build the app, you'll just provide a data model and some natural language descriptions of what you want your product to do.

Except you won't if you want to make money because then you don't have a business

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by akavi »

qbasic_forever wrote: post #74
yosito wrote: post #59

Seems like someone already wrote an HN plugin. More than one enthusiastic comment per minute on this thread and it was just posted half an hour ago. Plus HN is filled with enthusiasm about ChatGPT today. Seems sus.

It's really over the top hype the likes of which we haven't seen since self driving, blockchain/bitcoin, etc. I suspect in a year there will be some interesting uses of LLMs but all of the 'this changes EVERYTHING' pie in the sky thinking will be back down to earth.

The difference is unlike self-driving and crypto, LLMs are providing value to people _today_.

In my personal life, GPT4 is a patient interlocutor to ask about nerdy topics that are annoying to google (eg, yesterday I asked it "What's the homologue of the caudofemoralis in mammals?", and a long convo about the subtleties of when it is and isn't ok to use "gè" as the generic classifier in Mandarin.)

Professionally, it's great for things like "How do I recursively do a search and replace `import "foo" from "bar"` to `import "baz" from "buzz"`, or "Pull out the names of functions defined in this chunk of scala code". This is without tighter integrations like Copilot or the ones linked to above.

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Post by baq »

mariojv wrote: post #102
djoldman wrote: post #86

Now just one step away from charging businesses for access to the chatGPT users. Instant links from inside chatGPT to your website are the new equivalent of Google search ads.

I really hope they stick with the ChatGPT+ paid model. A big use of GPT to me is getting information I can already get with a search, but summarized more concisely without having to navigate various disparate web interfaces and bloated websites. It saves a lot of time for things that I don't need an expert's verified opinion on. Injecting ads into that might mess with the experience. Maybe a freemium model where you…

Bing image creator seems to be on the right path to freemium: you get a few priority requests and then get bumped onto the slow free queue. If the thing keeps getting better as fast as it is right now they'll have lines in the checkout page.

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

This is what Apple's Siri was meant to be. Apple bought Siri from SRI international (Siri = SRI), and when it was launched was meant to include ability to book restaurants etc (thereby bypassing search), but somehow those capabilities were never released and today Siri still can't even control the iPhone!

My hot take on ChatGPT plugins is a bit mixed - should be very powerful, and maybe significant revenue generator, but at same time doesn't seem in the least bit responsible. We barely understand ChatGPT itself, and now it's suddenly being given ability to perform arbitrary actions!

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by majormajor »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #106
celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

>And if you're a data provider, are there any assurances that openai isn't just scraping the output and using it as part of their RLHF training loop, baking your proprietary data into their model? I don't think this should be a major concern for most people i) What assurance is there that they won't do that anyway? You have no legal recourse against them scraping your website (see linkedin's failed legal battles). ii…

To me the logical outcome of this is siloization of information.

If display ad revenue as a way of monetizing knowledge and expertise dries up, why would we assume that all of the same level of information will still be put out there for free on the public internet?

Paywalls on steroids for "vetted" content and an increasingly-hard-to-navigate mix of people sharing good info for free + spam and misinformation (now also machine generated!) to try to capture the last of the search traffic and display ad monetization market.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by baq »

v4dok wrote: post #19

bye bye jupyter notebooks. This is big.

absolutely... not.

    !pip install jupyter-chatgpt
    !chatgpt make me a notebook with this dataframe with such and such plots

    > here you are

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by mk_stjames »

petilon wrote: post #5

With Wolfram plugin ChatGPT is going to become a Math genius. OpenAI is moving fast to make sure their first-mover advantage doesn't go to waste.

I was drawn to the Wolfram logo blurb as well. It is funny because within days of ChatGPT making waves you had Stephen Wolfram writing 20,000-word blog posts about how LLM's could benefit from a Wolfram-Language/Wolfram Alpha API call to augment their capabilities.

On one hand I'm sure he will love to see people use their paid Wolfram Language server endpoints coupled to OpenAI's latest juggernaut. On the other, I'm sure he's wondering about what things would have looked like if his company would have been focused on this wave of AI from the start...

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by moffkalast »

celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

> are there any assurances that openai isn't just scraping the output and using it as part of their RLHF training loop

You can be assured that they are definitely doing exactly that on all of the data they can get their hands on. It's the only way they can really improve the model after all. If you don't want the model spitting out something you told it to some other person 5 years down the line, don't give it the data. Simple as.

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