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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by chaosharmonic »

_skel wrote: post #85
samtheDamned wrote: post #2

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

There is always going to be a chorus about something. Power users are impossible to please because they all have strong opinions but not the same opinions. People will still want different screen resolutions, aspect ratios, keyboard layouts, etc. Now that AMD is available people will want particular CPU SKUs. It will never end. I wish Framework luck, because they are targeting the pickiest userbase that exists.

I personally held off on getting one until my previous device (a Spectre x360) got smashed up in a car crash, but don't in any way regret this purchase even if I do still sort of miss touchscreens (and probably also would have waited for an AMD option otherwise).

But yeah, when I was suddenly in the market for a new laptop anyway, the extensive freedom to upgrade and configure this made it an extremely easy sell compared to anything else that would have been on my radar.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

OJFord wrote: post #111
marci wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would guess figuring out payment, shipping, returns, refunds, warranty...

..., taxes, consumer protection laws, ... It's probably harder being a US company selling into each EU country than it is for an EU-based company to sell to the rest of the EU and also the US, too? The alternative would be not selling directly to consumer, using some intermediary like Amazon or whatever.

Or be a reselling manufacturer like Clevo, and let local companies deal with that stiff.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by mixmastamyk »

Hmm, 16" is great to hear but I see one issue. A decade or so ago big laptops let you plug things in the back. This was great because you didn't need cables running across your desk, which is kinda ridiculous for a desktop-replacement.

This model seems to have the traditional top-mounted screen, leaving space in the back, but it is empty. Seems in the rush to copy Apple over the last decade, this knowledge was forgotten. That's a shame. Personally, I'd like all those ports/cables (minus two USB) in the back and off my desk.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

#126

Post by Tade0 »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #17

Oh there we go, modular GPU add in boards. Heyoooo! And they support other stuff! I wish the framework site was up, as I want to see what this specification looks like. If you look inside an Asus Zephyrus or whatever, the cooling setup needed to support such a thing in a thin laptop is mad . The 13", for instance, has a pancake sized 2D headspreader + liquid metal TIM, which very much goes against repairability. The…

I repasted and changed the fans in my Zephyrus (turns out mattress pumps and fans don't mix) and fortunately the whole heatsink assembly comes off in more or less one go.

It is bulky though. Moreover, this bulk is not enough to keep the keyboard from getting really hot under load.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

#127

Post by starkparker »

genocidicbunny wrote: post #119
whitehexagon wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Matte display yay! I missed that a lot on the MBP. Seems like they still want to bundle a windows license, I never understand this, do MS pay OEMs to do this?

If you pick the DIY option, you can omit the Windows license. You'll have to install Linux yourself, but that doesn't seem like a terribly difficult task for someone already going with the DIY option. I'm guessing they don't want to officially support any specific distro, and offering support for multiple distros is probably a bit outside their wheelhouse at the moment. [e: this is perhaps not the case]

> I'm guessing they don't want to officially support any specific distro

https://frame.work/linux

> Officially supported

> Fedora 37

> Ubuntu 22.04 LTS

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

#128

Post by starkparker »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #122

I think the Cooler Master case for your "old" mainboard is a pretty neat idea. In that you can upgrade your mainboard, take the old one and put it into the case to make a "mini" PC out of it. That is pretty awesome.

There was already an official 3D-printable case, and Framework even links to it from the CoolerMaster case's product page. Still good to finally have a straightforward option for the printerless.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

#129

Post by genocidicbunny »

starkparker wrote: post #127
genocidicbunny wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you pick the DIY option, you can omit the Windows license. You'll have to install Linux yourself, but that doesn't seem like a terribly difficult task for someone already going with the DIY option. I'm guessing they don't want to officially support any specific distro, and offering support for multiple distros is probably a bit outside their wheelhouse at the moment. [e: this is perhaps not the case]

> I'm guessing they don't want to officially support any specific distro https://frame.work/linux > Officially supported > Fedora 37 > Ubuntu 22.04 LTS

Perhaps it's not updated yet, but I don't see AMD in that list.
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