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Post by mihaaly »

valarauko wrote: post #114

Lots of people here saying they used to visit this site regularly. I'm curious as to what they got out of it (some people say they used to visit the site daily). I can see the value when you're looking to buy a camera, and reading reviews makes sense to me in that very narrow context. Besides that, why visit a camera review site daily? How frequently were people buying cameras? Professional photographers, sure, I can…

Daily is unrealistic - how many days of a year they have update for a particular interest? - but regularly when you are interested in cameras, following product news even if you are not buying right now, or soon, it is good. To be informed! I did so several years ago (once or more per week). Now... not so much. Less time for photography. If I had more time, this could have been different.

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Post by foldr »

asdff wrote: post #81
johnvanommen wrote: post #71

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I have a $600 DSLR that I bought at Costco on a whim, fifteen years ago. Once in a blue moon I look at my old photos and realize they just look night and day better than anything I've taken in the last decade. Camera phone lenses do alright when it's sunny outside, but DSLRs kill it when it comes to medium and low light.

And of course, the dslr looks perfect in perfect light too. You can do things that make your images even better with dslrs since you have access to the raw files and complete control over exposure. You can underexpose for a night scene to not blow up highlights and shoot at lower noise or at a shutter speed you can hand hold without blur (depends on your current focal length), then pull up the exposure only on the sh…

You can easily shoot RAW with manual control over exposure (and even focus) on an iPhone with Halide or other third party apps. Aperture is fixed, of course.

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Post by asdff »

dylan604 wrote: post #98
asdff wrote: post #87

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I can't decide if in the future we will be bloblike sloths in chairs like in Wall-E , or maybe it will be like The Matrix but you are plugged into a peleton bike.

where did you get the peleton reference from The Matrix? even the machines realized that was wasted. you spend your entire life cycle in a sensory deprivation tank with the computer telling you how much of a good time you are having. wasting energy on actually moving muscles is absurd! that's not thinking like a machine

I figured the peloton would be the method of entry for the machine. Start off with the rich people doing it for working out to make it seem sexy and cool (done), get everyone else on it (in progress), get your boss to buy pelotons for remote zoom calls (probably has happened), start buying energy from peleton users pedaling (will be pitched soon), offer drug to allow sleeping while pedaling and making energy, change formulation to prevent consciousness entirely while pedaling and remain pedaling until your knees explode and you are replaced on the bike by the machines with another drugged up biological generator.

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Post by asdff »

visarga wrote: post #117
PaulHoule wrote: post #63

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I think of how video game walkthroughs have gone this way. It used to be you'd find exhaustive 300k text explanations of everything in a game. Now there is a "let's play" video that goes on for 40 hours, you have to find the right video to watch, then seek to the right place in that video, it's exhausting. The one case I found the video was better was in a certain level where the way forward was to make a jump that d…

Try the GPTs they might know the game tricks and adapt to your specifics without search, of course if the info is prior to 2021.

It's going to tell you exactly how to compose your pokemon team to beat a gym that doesn't exist in the game

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Post by dangerboysteve »

gist wrote: post #4

I used to visit this site a great deal but I haven't been there in years. I don't even know how many years. Other than generally Amazon doing layoffs my guess is interest in equipment that they talk about has dropped greatly and specifically because of smartphone cameras (Iphone in particular in my case). I have an expensive Sony Camera (several thousand for the body with a $2000 lens and other lenses) and haven't us…

I was in the same boat. Large Canon Full frame with IL lenses. What got me in the end was the bulk and the worry about the camera being stolen, broken, and then dealing with the media. I find I take a lot more photos all the time with my iPhone 13 Pro Max as I always have it with me.

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Post by PaulHoule »

visarga wrote: post #117
PaulHoule wrote: post #63

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I think of how video game walkthroughs have gone this way. It used to be you'd find exhaustive 300k text explanations of everything in a game. Now there is a "let's play" video that goes on for 40 hours, you have to find the right video to watch, then seek to the right place in that video, it's exhausting. The one case I found the video was better was in a certain level where the way forward was to make a jump that d…

Try the GPTs they might know the game tricks and adapt to your specifics without search, of course if the info is prior to 2021.

I was thinking about information extracting the GameFAQs for certain Hyperdimension Neptunia games to make a knowledge graph so I could figure out the dependency graph of what dungeons I would have to go to to get the items to craft the items that I need to craft an item I want. But then again, I’m a weeaboo.

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Post by PaulHoule »

asdff wrote: post #109
noncoml wrote: post #39

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Same here. After 15 years I cancelled it. Also their market is now full of counterfeit and Chinese crap that you can buy cheaper on AliExpress. BHPhotovideo is the place I do most of my electronics shopping these days.

Honestly they need to just get ahead of the fakes and hook their site directly to aliexpress. There are honestly some great xiaomi products that are very cheap, but to get them cheaply I need to order on aliexpress which could be fast, or it could be 4 months with a 100 unit minimum order. On amazon you can also find xiaomi products, but they aren't labelled xiaomi and they end up costing 4x as much as what the same…

Walmart stands out as one of the few retailers that are as bad as AMZN.

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Post by Magi604 »

RIP DPReview. Great place to consume in-depth camera and lens reviews and get input from real users through the forums.

I can proudly say I had an image selected as a winner in one of their annual "best photos of the year" contests.

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Post by vwoolf »

giobox wrote: post #9
ragona wrote: post #3

Dang, I'm actually surprisingly sad about this. DPReview is _the_ site for extremely detailed analysis of cameras. When I want to buy something I go through their report first, and it's always extremely informative. It feels like this kind of layoff is part of an end of an era. Amazon used to NEVER cancel projects that customers were using. They just straight up Did. Not. Do. It. I once had to get approval from my VP…

I do think times have changed though, DPReviews fortunes arguably have mirrored the fortunes of the ILC (interchangeable lens camera) market. The site (along with flickr.com...) was a daily visit for me 15 years ago at the height of the DSLR boom, but I honestly now can't remember the last time I checked. ILC/DSLR annual sales volume peaked in ~2010 I believe, and has rapidly declined ever since really, another victi…

I'm seeing a lot of people discussing sales numbers; here is one article showing the decline in terms of both lens and interchangeable lens cameras shipped: https://bythom.com/newsviews/real-camera-economics.html.

Lenses appear to have declined by about 66% from 2012 to 2022. Cameras, by a little under 50%.

This decline makes sense to me. I have a Fuji XT4 which I like a lot, but, also, starting around the iPhone 13, phones got really good. Their automatic exposure in sunlight, for example, is often (not always) great. At the same time, the software quality in pretty much all cameras leaves much to be desired: I can go on a rant about the number of clicks necessary to wirelessly transfer from camera to phone but would rather not, and people have been ranting about that topic for at least a decade.

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