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Re: ChatGPT is down

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I hear two things requested a lot - an open source ChatGPT and more controls on the training/data/usage/etc. How can these two things be held in balance? If it is open source entirely, can't I use the training data and tool in any way I want? What guardrails prevent me from using it to generate hate speech? Given the compute power needed to train/run it; where are people going to do that in any accessible way that do…

We should be generating more hate speech, not less. The more hate speech people encounter, the less damaging it will be.

Can you elaborate on this idea? It seems like a pretty controversial statement.

Re: ChatGPT is down

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No need to give those humans megaphones. Or rather, to hand out megaphones which algorithmically spew hatred regardless of what you wanted to say.

I don't think anyone wants an AI that generates hate speech unprompted. There are plenty who would want an AI that generates hate speech when explictly instructed to.

Oh, you forget that the AI that generates hate or other disruption always can be aimed at will, like a weapon.

If you thought russian/chinese troll farms were bad, wait for this little trick...

Re: ChatGPT is down

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I hear two things requested a lot - an open source ChatGPT and more controls on the training/data/usage/etc. How can these two things be held in balance? If it is open source entirely, can't I use the training data and tool in any way I want? What guardrails prevent me from using it to generate hate speech? Given the compute power needed to train/run it; where are people going to do that in any accessible way that do…

What kind of hate speech could you possibly generate with ChatGPT that doesn't already exist in the wild, free to copy and spread?

Automated radicalization of Twitter, or Reddit, or HN, or Wikipedia.

The sophisticated bad actor won’t generate straight-up hate speech that will just get filtered/blocked. They will be master of ten thousand bot accounts that work slowly to build up a plausibly innocuous posting history (including holding realistic conversations either between themselves or with real users), then start subtly manipulating conversations towards a predetermined political end.

Basically everything that political troll farms and media do already, but automated on a massive scale.

Where’s the automated defence against this?

Re: ChatGPT is down

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Incredible how fast that went. My assistant/driver has become my go-to email, blog and newsletter writer with the use of chat GPT. This downtime makes me realize how fast our dependency on that specific system has gone and how scary that actually is.

> our dependency I know I'm being pedantic, but I made a very conscious decision not to depend on this technology any time soon given how brand new it is, for this exact reason.

Or building products on top of the early API offerings. If you build anything with serious traction they have the ability to undercut you with a better version in a very short time frame by virtue of actually understanding their system and ability to iterate on it - to say nothing of the ability to also hike prices or drop service at any moment.

Building on top of the OpenAI API now is like building on top of the early Twitter API then.

Re: ChatGPT is down

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What guardrails prevent me from using it to generate hate speech? I know why you say this, but it annoys me so much. Do you blame the hammer, or the fist wielding it? Without gpt, people can still spew hate too.

With the lever of chatgpt they can spew more hate more quickly. Like write 100k personalised emails advocating whatever per day quickly. We're all getting ChatGPT approaches from people on Linkedin.... I have a can of gas in the shed, I can burn down a house. No one questions that. If I had a B52 full of incendiary bombs I expect that everyone would be deeply concerned. Folks would say "that fella shouldn't have acce…

This was possible before LLMs were even invented. Creating 100s of variants of hate speech and emailing them out is trivial and doesn’t need any machine learning at all.

Re: ChatGPT is down

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This is due to rumored hacks/leaks: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/11wkw5z/has_chatgp... We really need an open source alternative instead of putting all our faith in one for-profit company.

I wouldn't put my faith in ChatGPT for anything that matters.

It's the little things.

A couple of hours ago I posted a question on Stack Overflow, relatively niche stuff. In 5 hours it got 7 views and no reactions.

After waiting for around two hours after posting it, I posted the same text into ChatGPT and got three different answers, two of them cropped due to network errors, but one through the API managed to get answered (even though the API is also having outages). It solved my issue.

Re: ChatGPT is down

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This is due to rumored hacks/leaks: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/11wkw5z/has_chatgp... We really need an open source alternative instead of putting all our faith in one for-profit company.

I wish there was some legally binding definition of "open" in the context of software so that OpenAI could be compelled to change their name.

It’s open to interpretation.

Re: ChatGPT is down

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I was thinking the same. I just built a new product incredibly fast, and now I feel like I'm going at limping speed with Google only when I'm in doubt.

Funny to see your comment, because other commenters had given me the impression that devs were above using chatgpt, and that the code it produces is bad. While some of its responses can be bad, being able to iterate and prototype so quickly is addictive.

The code oftentimes contains errors, but specially when it's about a library which you don't know very well, it will point you in the right direction within a minute. Google is not able to do this at this speed.

Re: ChatGPT is down

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Who among is is more worried about their chatgpt history leaked vs their Google searches?

Most of my ChatGPT conversations involve trying to goad it into saying *extremely* inappropriate things, in part because i want to test its boundaries and in part because it's funny seeing the computer program say horrible things. I'm definitely more worried about my chatgpt history because i don't stand behind anything i've said to it.

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