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Khan Academy integrates GPT-4 as every student’s customized tutor

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Post by swatcoder »

misssocrates wrote: post #114
cyrialize wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a similar reply in a separate thread, but human-to-human interaction is extremely important for young children. Teachers teach much more than school subjects in the classroom - they teach how to behave, how to ask for help, how to interact with others, etc. I often feel like teachers of young children teach them how to be "human". I think as people age they can probably rely more on Khan Academy, etc. Maybe thi…

> teach how to behave, how to ask for help, how to interact with others, etc. I often feel like teachers of young children teach them how to be "human". Isn't that the job description of parents and/or day care?

Small modern families don’t have a ton of people around and the relationships between those people tend to settle into equilibrium. It’s not really adequate for practicing the adaptive social skills we usually (used to?) expect from adults.

And day care can provide more of that, but is naturally supplanted for 25-30 hours per week once kids start attending school.

Socialization is absolutely a function of schools. You can expect big societal repercussions if it were substantially removed.

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Post by itronitron »

navigate8310 wrote: post #40
jhp123 wrote: post #32

I've tutored people at times. A good tutor needs to understand the subject very well, so they can not only understand the right answer but also figure out why the student is coming to the wrong answer. I personally think that assigning GPT as a "tutor" is devaluing the real skill involved in tutoring and I doubt it will work out.

I would like to divert your attention to this recent post: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4 specifically on the topic of "Steerability: Socratic tutor" (Sample 1 of 3)

why?

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Post by phito »

Sol- wrote: post #10

Given that learning will probably soon not be required anymore to live a successful life (AIs will do everything better than you), I guess such learning-as-a-hobby apps will be the remaining niche to entertain the humans on basic income. I wonder how many people will actually make use of it, though, and how many are instead content with being wireheaded by the various AI-based content apps that will appear, full with…

I am not even that optimistic about it. What would be the incentive to keep humans entertained in a world run by AI? Why would they keep billions of us around? I won't make any sense economically.

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Post by the8472 »

visarga wrote: post #116
the8472 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're saying that they have reduced hallucinations. But RLHF seems to undo some of the improvements (figure 8 in the paper).

Those are calibration curves for confidence.

Being confident in false things is part of what makes hallucinations troublesome.

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Post by vsareto »

jamestimmins wrote: post #14

Highly recommend the Neal Stephenson book The Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer , for an interesting exploration of a custom AI tutor for each student. In that book, students have a "magic book" that teaches them lessons in a story form while encouraging certain life paths. It's pretty fascinating to consider the implications and whether that's something we'll want, bc it may soon be possible.

>It's pretty fascinating to consider the implications and whether that's something we'll want, bc it may soon be possible.

I wouldn't be surprised if it told people to take some path of least resistance to $10+ million so you don't have to work to survive, then you can mostly do whatever you want.

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Post by superfrank »

megaman821 wrote: post #102
cypress66 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chatgpt is already more accurate than a lot of my high school teachers.

My thoughts exactly. What is the baseline here? Teachers already give biased and/or inaccurate information at a rate much higher than I have seen in ChatGPT.

Is there a name for this fallacy (is it a fallacy?). I feel like we see the same issue with self driving cars crash rates. People are hesitant to adopt because they aren't perfect, but ignore that it's better than the status quo.

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Post by frankfrankfrank »

yterdy wrote: post #117
shawnjan8 wrote: post #6

Just to be clear: it's not for every student (at least not yet!). We are in a research phase sharing it with a limited subset of users. More details about our approach to the responsible development of AI: https://blog.khanacademy.org/aiguidelines/

>it's not for every student (at least not yet!) >Donation required after chosen from waitlist So, it's for rich ones?

I frequently find myself in the middle of many things, one of them is that although I oppose the grotesque plunder of the public and citizens of countries by neo-aristocrats claiming to do one thing or another amidst blatant lies of social welfare, I also object to slavery and therefore cannot condone that everything should be free since people like being compensated for their work, and not by being indentured and forced to do things.

Things have to cost, even if they wouldn’t have to cost as much if we could stop the psychopaths at the top constantly plundering and raiding the resources of the productive people to maintain their parasitic and decadent lives.

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Post by canadianfella »

itronitron wrote: post #89
shawnjan8 wrote: post #6

Just to be clear: it's not for every student (at least not yet!). We are in a research phase sharing it with a limited subset of users. More details about our approach to the responsible development of AI: https://blog.khanacademy.org/aiguidelines/

It better not be for every student. I am very familiar with Khan Academy as I am currently guiding a student through several AP courses on khanacademy. In my opinion, khan academy's time would be better spent fixing the UI for teachers, and improving the organization of the physics curriculum. I would prefer that khan academy not be dragged into some PR fluff piece for some AI shill.

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Post by progman32 »

Wata2 wrote: post #91
worrycue wrote: post #67

Am I the only one somewhat alarmed that we are choosing to rely on AIs that are vulnerable to hallucinations so much? Personally I rather have a more limited but reliable tool than a more powerful but unreliable one.

Firstly, the unreliability may not be permanent, and we may improve the AI accuracy in the future. Secondly, we need to figure out what works and what not, and we're in the middle of such phase. Finally, there is no need to be alarmed, even with hallucinations, the amount of advanced (and reliable) knowledge provided by the AI vastly counterbalances the small mistakes. The elitist mindset needs to die, let's give acc…

That is a good goal. Is AI the best tool for the job?

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Post by vsareto »

superfrank wrote: post #126
megaman821 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My thoughts exactly. What is the baseline here? Teachers already give biased and/or inaccurate information at a rate much higher than I have seen in ChatGPT.

Is there a name for this fallacy (is it a fallacy?). I feel like we see the same issue with self driving cars crash rates. People are hesitant to adopt because they aren't perfect, but ignore that it's better than the status quo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy maybe?
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