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I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…
What a bait and switch. Didn’t see that one coming.
I don't get why you'd consider this a "bait and switch". It seems pretty unsurprising to me that a company testing out an uncommon, unproven business model would get the pricing wrong on the first attempt. Regardless, it's not like they're the only game in town, or that you're locked in to some long-term contract with them. If you don't like the new pricing, cancel and go back to an ad-supported/data-mining-supported…
> If such change to Individual plans is to occur, we plan to grandfather-in all early adopters (meaning all current and future paid customers, up until this change) allowing them to keep their existing subscription price as long as they don’t cancel it.
... it's a bait and switch. How could you trust their promised privacy angle when they can't honor their own promises for pricing? All the privacy angle is is trust, I anticipate they'll abandon that too when it doesn't make economic sense.
> The new Standard plan pricing will be $5/month, with 200 free searches included.
They’re not free; they’re $5/month. I know it sounds pedantic but on first read I thought, ok, so 200 free searches in addition to whatever you get for $5, which is… what? It makes it feel more complex than it is.
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It was hinted at for a few months on the kagi discord. People could even vote for different pricing models.
Most people who pay for a search engine don’t participate in chat rooms discussing their paid search engine pricing.
I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed by the mostly negative responses here, I wouldn't have thought this would be received as badly as it apparently is, by this here crowd. I haven't followed along that closely, but I dropped by their discord every once in a while, and from the discussions I saw I felt Kagi was as open as they could be, trying to communicate the upcoming change(s), why they are necessary, getting…
I didn’t care about that, because they promised me my reasonable plan was grandfathered forever. That was a lie, so I canceled. Cause and effect. I don’t trust companies who lie to me.
The more worrying update here is that Kagi is not grandfathering in legacy plans beyond the next billing cycle, which is a departure from a promise:
> If such change to Individual plans is to occur, we plan to grandfather-in all early adopters (meaning all current and future paid customers, up until this change) allowing them to keep their existing subscription price as long as they don’t cancel it.
Kagi's claim to privacy is intrinsically tied to their capacity to keep their word. If they say one thing and do another with pricing, how can I trust they'll do what they say when it comes to privacy?
I paid for Kagi the first moment I was allowed to, and this news soured me on Kagi overnight. Trust is hard to earn back.
I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…
Same here. I Would have appreciate them to keep price for early adopters. It would have been a smart move towards dedicated users/believers and prevent them from the unavoidable bleeding to come... that will lead to more money issues. Too bad, I absolutely loved it.
Simple math. It's worth it for me. I realise it's possible not many others feel the same, but even if Kagi quintupled their current prices I would still pay for it without batting an eye. Why? Because of the time and effort it saves me. I make around 1500 searches per month. If it saves me 3s per search (I'm 100% convinced it's actually way more), that's saving me 75min in a month. I'm paid more than the unlimited pl…
I dont have anything for or against Kagi, I dont use them and don't care for them. But I see no reason to downvote your comment.
The pricing changes are unfortunate, yes, since they encourage me to think about querying, which ought to not be the case. The more worrying update here is that Kagi is not grandfathering in legacy plans beyond the next billing cycle, which is a departure from a promise: > If such change to Individual plans is to occur, we plan to grandfather-in all early adopters (meaning all current and future paid customers, up un…
I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed by the mostly negative responses here, I wouldn't have thought this would be received as badly as it apparently is, by this here crowd. I haven't followed along that closely, but I dropped by their discord every once in a while, and from the discussions I saw I felt Kagi was as open as they could be, trying to communicate the upcoming change(s), why they are necessary, getting…
If you're a Kagi fan, the use of Discord by the search engine may seem impressive, but as a regular user looking for an affordable and trustworthy search engine, it's unlikely that you would spend your time engaging with the search engine's Discord community.
It's a common occurrence among startups to rely on Discord as a means to measure software usage, but in actuality, the platform mostly attracts highly engaged power users and a few followers who may not represent the average user. As a result, the company's perception of their software's typical user may be skewed.