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What a shitty thing to say given that the public has no direct way to deny them what they do if they don't deem it safe.
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Thanks for the reply! May I ask why "you don't care", though?
Mostly because of the Flint thing in my other comment, but also because I spent an inordinate amount of my childhood on 4chan listening to people peddle their own coverup theories.
I've heard about this, but it is surprising how little coverage it gets compared to other things. If you were to tally up how much airtime each news story gets, plotted against the general tone of the coverage, you'd probably come up with something resembling the news room agenda (you'd also have to weigh it against other stories developing at around the same time). I have to wonder why a story of environmental disas…
Unsurprising. Even the love canal disaster in the US faced massive disinterest before it was quietly revealed to have been a cataclysmic environmental contamination. It boils down to this: - rail fired a ton of employees a while ago and is now seeing serious issues due to mismanagement - government oversight is a moderate Republican masquerading as a liberal democrat and just wants the clout from successful negotiati…
It's just capitalism being capitalism in the end
For all of you who down vote:
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Mostly because of the Flint thing in my other comment, but also because I spent an inordinate amount of my childhood on 4chan listening to people peddle their own coverup theories.
So, it's not the actual disaster that you don't care about but the "you have not heard about this" part of the news?
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> US companies make money from stories about Chinese weather balloons. They lose money when horrific things like this happen. The carrier will lose money. But a news company would make money, wouldn't they? Bad news is good news after all, and environmental disasters are bad news.
Likely there is considerable overlap in ownership between the handful of railway companies that dominate the market and handful of media companies that dominate the market.
This isn't too far from me. Curious to hear thoughts from folks with deeper backgrounds in chemistry than I have (high school).
One of the chemicals that is produced by burning this delicious cocktail is Phosgene Gas ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosgene ) which among its numerous delightful uses is a nerve agent
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The two "helpful" byproducts of vinyl chloride burning like that is HF and phosgene. The wind is going to spread those rapidly.
I'm doubtful on the HF since it's not vinyl fluoride. More likely HCl. Likely, there's some phosgene, though I've read that in large fires that mostly get's burned up. Of course there's CO. The liquid remnants are carcinogenic. https://tsapps.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=10699... https://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/2001.pdf
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The two "helpful" byproducts of vinyl chloride burning like that is HF and phosgene. The wind is going to spread those rapidly.
HF? Vinyl chloride does not contain fluorine. It would be HCl instead, which is a naturally occurring mineral acid. The acid rain is going to be a disaster in the short term, but it's not that bad. Phosgene is fairly toxic when inhaled from at a significant concentration, but also dissipates and doesn't stay that long in the atmosphere.
One conspiracy theory floating around is that the UFO shoot downs came at a fortuitous time to keep this chemical spill off the front page.
In a world where the Ukraine war ended Covid, balloons in the sky can certainly keep environmental catastrophes off the front page.