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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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You would want a USB-C connector so you can drive every device you own with one cable. You would want Gecko if you like arbitrary extensions - sure, iOS lets you have (somewhat weaker) adblock, but there's a whole world of useful extensions beyond that. And you'd want to run arbitrary code on a machine you own because phones are computers, and some of us like to be able to use less-hobbled software on them.

>You would want a USB-C connector so you can drive every device you own with one cable I have a shitton of hardware and cables that I'm not going to throw away just for some connector that will be phased out in ten years. >You would want Gecko if you like arbitrary extensions On my desktop, sure. On my phone? Why bother? >And you'd want to run arbitrary code on a machine you own because phones are computers Disagree.

On phones, just as on desktops, there is no way I'm visiting any web page, or using YouTube, without uBlock Origin or SponsorBlock. Couple that with other stuff like YouTube Vanced or Tachiyomi, and I'll keep my Android over an iPhone.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

> When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"?

Whenever I have to use an older phone to do anything. App and web developers seem to be in an arms race with moore's law to see if they can waste the extra resources faster than hardware manufacturers can provide them.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Why anyone would get a Samsung is beyond me. The amount of bloatware they install is insane and a lot of that you can't even uninstall. Plus it takes so long to get OS updates. And then there is Bixby or what that piece of shit is called.

On an iPhone 13 pro right now but miss a few things about Samsung/Note series phones: Stylus. Better web browser options. Dex. 360 support. knox/secure secondary area. ability to install multiple versions of same app (eg for two diff whatsapp numbers). fingerprint sensor. custom launchers with better widgets. better youtube clients. chromecast receiving. windows and side-by-side displays. And I actually really liked the ability to remap the bixby button on older devices as a dedicated back button. I fully suspect future iPhones will have more hardware (ish) buttons on the sides of phones. or dedicated touch points on the phone rim for certain functions/programability. Especially since 'Shortcuts' are a thing in ios.

iphone wins hands down for battery life, processor speed (especially video/processing), and arguably for some aspects of camera.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

I think the simple answer is that you will get more years of use out of a highly performing chip. App bloat is inevitable and eventually the phone will slow down. You might get an extra year or two out of a flagship phone than a midrange phone. Android seems particularly vulnerable to this bloat due to a combination of cheaper components bottlenecking performance, most manufacturers loading up the OS with bloat, and apps having to target a much broader range of devices and having that take away from the performance tuning you can spend time on in iOS. Take it all together and the new Samsung you buy today will probably feel sluggish much sooner than a new iPhone.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Why would I want any of that? We are talking phones here, not computers.

You would want a USB-C connector so you can drive every device you own with one cable. You would want Gecko if you like arbitrary extensions - sure, iOS lets you have (somewhat weaker) adblock, but there's a whole world of useful extensions beyond that. And you'd want to run arbitrary code on a machine you own because phones are computers, and some of us like to be able to use less-hobbled software on them.

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Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would want a USB-C connector so you can drive every device you own with one cable. You would want Gecko if you like arbitrary extensions - sure, iOS lets you have (somewhat weaker) adblock, but there's a whole world of useful extensions beyond that. And you'd want to run arbitrary code on a machine you own because phones are computers, and some of us like to be able to use less-hobbled software on them.

>You would want a USB-C connector so you can drive every device you own with one cable I have a shitton of hardware and cables that I'm not going to throw away just for some connector that will be phased out in ten years. >You would want Gecko if you like arbitrary extensions On my desktop, sure. On my phone? Why bother? >And you'd want to run arbitrary code on a machine you own because phones are computers Disagree.

> I have a shitton of hardware and cables that I'm not going to throw away just for some connector that will be phased out in ten years.

Most people already have USB-C cables. Apple people often have them b/c of a MacBook or w/e.

> On my desktop, sure. On my phone? Why bother?

Dark Mode, Ad Blocking, etc.

> Disagree

Freedom is important, even if you don't need it now. Someone else, maybe you in the future, may need it.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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> 0. does it have a stylus / pen? All modern touch screen phones are compatible with a stylus. I'm sure it would be harder to find one that isn't. The accuracy may not be the best on budget models. Unless you mean _is a stylus / pen included with the phone_?

You won't have much luck trying to combine an official Apple stylus with an iPhone. It's kind of a shame with how big phones have gotten over the years. Samsung has some phones that have the necessary screen support for their styluses, sometimes even if the phone didn't come with one, but that's only in very few models.

There's the Apple Pencil, currently works on iPadOS but I don't see a reason why apple will not push the features to / it will at least be incorporated within the blend of macOS, iOS, and iPadOS.

I can currently use the Apple Pencil as a _dumb stylus / pen_ on my iPhone 2022 SE (not that it's necessary but just to see if it can be done).

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Apps taking longer to launch is generally a RAM issue (unless you swipe up and force-close your apps each time). They drastically increased RAM recently: https://9to5mac.com/2022/12/31/iphone-ram-list/

Drastically still looks way lower than Samsung flagships (12GB).

iOS has historically done a lot better with less RAM (as far as how snappy and responsive it feels) than Android. Dunno if that's still the case, but it very much was for years and years.
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