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Re: Domain Registry Takes Sci-Hub’s .SE Domain Name Offline

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Post by kelthuzad »

verdverm wrote: post #120
kelthuzad wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Because in some cases, that is the rule. See Rule #5 https://github.com/handshake-org/hs-names How does the rule in any shape or form contradict what I have stated? It says: "The domain must not collide with a higher-ranked domain. For example, google.co.uk would lose to google.com. Only the owner of the higher-ranked domain is able to redeem it" Point is that many developers invested a lot of time and effort into…

>Why should any brand be entitled to such things? >> Exactly, but you are the one making a fuss about in the first place. Does this mean you believe there should not have been any reservations?

No, I was merely jestingly pointing out the inconsistency in your thinking.

Re: Domain Registry Takes Sci-Hub’s .SE Domain Name Offline

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Post by duckerude »

perihelions wrote: post #62
madars wrote: post #53

Little known fact: your Sci-Hub downloads are not private - https://sci-hub.ru/stats has historic access logs with IP addresses, paper identifiers, and timestamps, and plans to publish more logs in the future.

Your link seems to contradict your description, - "To protect the privacy of Sci-Hub users, we agreed that she would first aggregate users’ geographic locations to the nearest city using data from Google Maps; no identifying inter- net protocol (IP) addresses were given to me. (The data set and details on how it was analyzed are freely accessible at http://dx.doi.org/10.5061/dryad.q447c .)" https://sci-hub.ru/10.1126…

You can download tsv files with entries like this:

  2011-09-22 22:29:24 10.1007/BF01907940 www.springerlink.com/content/ppt42929g7645548/fulltext.pdf 213.87.138.* -176088 Russia
That's 3/4 of the IP address.

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Post by morpheos137 »

kossTKR wrote: post #108
morpheos137 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's dad. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/27/profitable-b...

Lately the fringe theories that we live in a world run by absolutely perverted and demented psychos actively worshipping exploitation and sadism doesn't seem that far out when you start to connect the dots of who's who in the in the highest echelons. Then they wash themselves with philanthropy and everyone praises them. The masses are easy to steer and have no interest in the esoteric power structures or foreign worl…

Please stop repeating Russian conspiracy theories. Here in the Democratic west we have freedom and meritocracy. Not legal corruption and nepotism. Now please return to the latest woke outrage de jour /s.

In all serious the idea that the West is not profoundly corrupt in its own way is ludicrous.

Were it all went wrong is not clear. I'd say probably the first Gulf War era was an inflection point but not a start.

Perhaps the Kennedy Assassination or the literal defenestration of former Secretary of Defense Forestal.

Re: Domain Registry Takes Sci-Hub’s .SE Domain Name Offline

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Post by verdverm »

kelthuzad wrote: post #121
verdverm wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Why should any brand be entitled to such things? >> Exactly, but you are the one making a fuss about in the first place. Does this mean you believe there should not have been any reservations?

No, I was merely jestingly pointing out the inconsistency in your thinking.

> No, I was merely jestingly pointing out the inconsistency in your thinking.

How are we to believe anything you have written is in good faith?

Can you explain my thinking and where it is inconsistent?

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Post by breck »

gruez wrote: post #95
breck wrote: post #81

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> The fact that you casually lump them together suggests that you don't understand what you're even arguing against. On the contrary, the fact you don't see how they both are at play suggests the opposite. Patented drugs are always inferior, but the truth has a hard time getting out due to (c)opywrong laws. ( https://longbets.org/855/ ) > Alright I'll bite. Can you elaborate on how they're "worse than useless"? Follo…

>On the contrary, the fact you don't see how they both are at play suggests the opposite Doing a quick skim of the linked article, the basis of argument seems to be: "copyright laws protecting Purdue from true and damaging information about the dangers of the medication from leaking and spreading" Which, so far as I can tell has nothing backing it. Do you mind elaborating what specific aspect of copyright law hindere…

> Again, this is a misunderstanding of how copyrights/patents work. The exact manuscript that Einstein wrote might be copyrightable,

You can assume I know everything about how copyright and patent works. I wrote a book on it in the 2000's. I also was a silent coauthor on many patent applications (for an anti-patent troll group). I agree it wasn't extremely clear that I was referring to this book: https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Albert+Ein... which I own and I can assure you is in public domain as there are no (c) symbols anywhere, which was a requirement back then (not sure if you knew that?? :P ).

> Which, so far as I can tell has nothing backing it. Do you mind elaborating what specific aspect of copyright law hindered the public from learning about the "dangers of the medication"?

The "media" in this country is controlled and easily bought, because of (c)opyright law which bans most peer 2 peer publishing. Hence, Purdue only has to pay off a few actors to ensure its lies, and not the truth, was the message that got out.

>> Follow this $1M bet for the truth:

> I don't get it.

The debate hasn't happened yet. It's set to happen in February, I believe. It will be the most definitive yet on the net benefit or net harm of the vaccine.

> Ah, so your claim is that if something's gone off patent, then it's in the public domain

My claim is that there are 2 eras in civilization: pre-patent era and post-patent era. Almost all key medicines and inventions in life come from the former era. People never have and never will needs patents to have incentives to innovate. The only group that benefits, are lawyers, who are unable to create value themselves, so have injected themselves as middle men and merely make everything worse for everyone else. Patents are a negative sum game. All they do is destroy economic value and productivity, to deliver revenue to hack lawyers.

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Post by NetOpWibby »

verdverm wrote: post #110
NetOpWibby wrote: post #74

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You're operating under several incorrect pretenses. Handshake works with the existing DNS. "The guy who ruined Freenode" had a minor part in the creation of Handshake but does not control it. The core developers of Handshake are still active.

Sorry, but my best friend was one of the core developers who left. I have heard tons of stories that the public has not. Another core dev died. I said several, not all... Yes, handshake can work alongside, technically, but the leadership did not want to, in practice

"Leadership" should be used extremely loosely. Imagine the first droplets of a puddle. Sure, the water is there but it doesn't dictate the spread. "In practice" is irrelevant to how Handshake is working right now.

I'm not here to convince you of the merits of Handshake, you clearly don't see nor care for it. Just clarifying facts over opinion.

EDIT: FWIW, I don't know who your best friend is but JJ remaining a part of Handshake is a major plus in my book. I personally don't find Andrew Lee (there are two in the Handshake story, we're talking about the Freenode one though) palatable and have clashed with him on occasion. Jackasses exist everywhere but IMHO, good people outnumber them by a massive margin.

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Post by gruez »

breck wrote: post #126
gruez wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>On the contrary, the fact you don't see how they both are at play suggests the opposite Doing a quick skim of the linked article, the basis of argument seems to be: "copyright laws protecting Purdue from true and damaging information about the dangers of the medication from leaking and spreading" Which, so far as I can tell has nothing backing it. Do you mind elaborating what specific aspect of copyright law hindere…

> Again, this is a misunderstanding of how copyrights/patents work. The exact manuscript that Einstein wrote might be copyrightable, You can assume I know everything about how copyright and patent works. I wrote a book on it in the 2000's. I also was a silent coauthor on many patent applications (for an anti-patent troll group). I agree it wasn't extremely clear that I was referring to this book: https://www.abebooks…

>You can assume I know everything about how copyright and patent works. I wrote a book on it in the 2000's.

Sorry, but "I wrote a [unnamed] book on it" doesn't quite cut it for me when it comes to credentialism. I'm going to need some actual sources for your claims about copyright.

>The "media" in this country is controlled and easily bought, because of (c)opyright law which bans most peer 2 peer publishing.

What do you mean by "peer 2 peer publishing"? Information dissemination is easier than ever thanks to the internet.

> Hence, Purdue only has to pay off a few actors to ensure its lies, and not the truth, was the message that got out.

Clearly that didn't work considering that now we all know about it, and according to wikipedia the story was broken by LA times, a traditional media outlet no less.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purdue_Pharma#Controversy

>My claim is that there are 2 eras in civilization: pre-patent era and post-patent era. Almost all key medicines and inventions in life come from the former era.

I would like to see your methodology on this. Penicillin, for instance was discovered in 1928 which firmly places it in the post-patent era.

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Post by MrOwnPut »

janosdebugs wrote: post #106
MrOwnPut wrote: post #40

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It's been working... for awhile now. But no traction here because... crypto = bad. There's Handshake, ENS, and UnstoppableDomains. Brave supports .eth domains out-of-the-box, hopefully Handshake soon. For Handshake you can use a local resolver that reads the blockchain or use NextDNS. NFTs aren't just for art, y'know. They have real [digital] world use cases for ownership, like DNS.

There is no traction because it's a vanity item. Most people/businesses need their websites to work on the average Joe/Jane's mobile phone, not just on some specialized browser that only a few people use. (=Chrome, Safari, Edge)

So tech here doesn't gain traction unless the average Joe already uses it?

And Brave and NextDNS aren't popular enough for your threshold?

Handshake is exactly what would stop the issue happening in TFA, yet everyone ignores it here.

For something to go mainstream, you have to talk about it...

HN is not a very good tech site if you only talk about the tech that the common person already knows about.

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Post by tptacek »

teddyh wrote: post #13
politician wrote: post #9

If there’s an area where a decentralized blockchain has application, it is surely DNS and the rent-seeking certificate infrastructure.

The “rent-seeking certificate infrastructure” could be solved if web browsers used the DNS (and DNSSEC) to validate certificates. The DNS, on the other hand, is more tricky. If you want human-readable and globally distinct (and stable) names, you have to have a centralized structure to keep track of who has what name. The best we could come up with was the DNS, which is at least hierarchical instead of completely mon…

Anybody involved in a "rent-seeking certificate infrastructure" is doing so by choice. Certificates are free. ISRG saw to that. Web browsers aren't going to use DNSSEC.
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