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Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by ilaksh »

tazjin wrote: post #3

Reddit's weird setup where essentially random people who were first "own" entire categories (= subreddits) of discussion is totally absurd.

I was a moderator for r/robots for awhile. I even spent a few hundred dollars hiring an artist to create a theme.

I begged them to help me pin down what the subreddit was about since the submissions were all over the place, and some people seemed to think it was for a certain type of robot content and others a different type. Most ignored the question.

I tried to share articles and videos of actual leading edge robots that I though t were awesome. Generally these were ignored, along with most such things. Occasionally a video of a real robot would randomly become popular for some reason. The worst most repeated robot sketches would often receive many votes. Anything even remotely erotic went straight to the top.

They seemed to like art quite a bit, but often the voting was the opposite of what it should have been. Like artwork that was clearly derivative or low quality was top billing for the day, and amazing work was ignored.

Then there was someone who really wanted to use it for some channel that was obviously kind of a stealth marketing system. I repeatedly warned everyone about it and tried to discourage it, but the only feedback from anyone was that they liked the content and I was overreacting.

Due to the incredibly poor judgement of the people voting in the sub, I got fed up and left.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by Auracle »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #7
geraldwhen wrote: post #4

The hilarious irony is that the AI is quite possibly copying the authors older work if it was published on an image sharing site like Reddit or deviant art. Lawsuits need to destroy these models stolen from the public.

While we're at it we should publicly flog anyone who's ever done any art in the style of anyone else before them, because they also stole ideas from the public.

I guess we’re back to crude cave paintings. Tear down all the statues and burn the museums.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by karaterobot »

ianbutler wrote: post #68
cyborgx7 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much bigger could it possibly be?

Reddit is one of the smaller social media sites at 430m yearly users. Yes absurd number but TikTok, FB, Instagram etc all have more.

Counterpoint: 430 million users is actually a lot. I just checked, and most sites don't have that many.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by xwdv »

I’m glad. If your “art” can be mistaken for AI art, it’s likely just content, not art. The example picture is meaningless, just technical work. Makes no sense upon scrutiny.

True art is something that can’t be replicated by AI. You will have no doubt once you see it. It still exists even with the proliferation of AI art.

It’s like the difference between a random picture and a meme. The meme looks like a picture, but it captures an emotion or essential human truth that you connect with upon looking at it, where as a picture is just a random picture that could look like a meme but has no real meaning to it. You will know what I’m talking about.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by nprateem »

erk__ wrote: post #72
geraldwhen wrote: post #4

The hilarious irony is that the AI is quite possibly copying the authors older work if it was published on an image sharing site like Reddit or deviant art. Lawsuits need to destroy these models stolen from the public.

It is curious how different the sentiment is in this thread compared to the other thread currently on the front page regarding GitHub Copilot. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34274326

I think the big difference is this is a tech forum. Of course it's ok for tech to put artists out of work, but not our precious selves.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by buffington »

lifefeed wrote: post #76

Those hands have the right number of fingers. So either 1) It's not AI-generated art, or 2) It is AI-generated art and the artist is a master at prompting. Either way they should be celebrated.

I've been keeping up with Stable Diffusion and all the tools around that for months now and it wasn't until a few weeks ago that I learned that you can just tell it to draw things accurately if you want to avoid weirdness.

For example, if I include "anatomically correct fingers" it significantly decreases the number of images with wildly creative ideas for how human fingers should be drawn.

Negative prompting works too. "deformed fingers" or "inaccurately drawn anatomy" can go a long way.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by vikingerik »

richbell wrote: post #14
benjaminbachman wrote: post #2

The only real news here is that Reddit mods are power mad tyrants, which is nothing new at all. AI generated art has just given them newer, funnier ways to be in the wrong.

"Power" moderators, that is people who moderate a large number of subreddits, are untenable. It is not possible to effectively or fairly moderate dozens of communities, even if you were to spend all your waking moments doing so. This is, in part, why it's so common for popular submissions to be locked or deleted because "y'all can't behave". The people that do so are largely doing it for their own self-gain (e.g., se…

Why do Reddit moderators do their work? They are paid in power. They get to decide what viewpoints are seen or not by others. That is a very compelling wage. And of course they all think they're doing a service by advancing their ideology because of course their ideology is the right one.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by Sebb767 »

erk__ wrote: post #72
geraldwhen wrote: post #4

The hilarious irony is that the AI is quite possibly copying the authors older work if it was published on an image sharing site like Reddit or deviant art. Lawsuits need to destroy these models stolen from the public.

It is curious how different the sentiment is in this thread compared to the other thread currently on the front page regarding GitHub Copilot. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34274326

It's just a sidenote, but HN is not a single person and doesn't hold a singular opinion. We have both sides argued for in both threads. Not that I disagree that there might also be some bias going on ("our" vs. "their" field), but some inconsistency is normal.

Re: Artist banned, told to “find a different style”- AI-made art

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Post by buffington »

xwdv wrote: post #124

I’m glad. If your “art” can be mistaken for AI art, it’s likely just content, not art. The example picture is meaningless, just technical work. Makes no sense upon scrutiny. True art is something that can’t be replicated by AI. You will have no doubt once you see it. It still exists even with the proliferation of AI art. It’s like the difference between a random picture and a meme. The meme looks like a picture, but…

> True art is something that can’t be replicated by AI. You will have no doubt once you see it.

Ignoring your assertion about what art is, I have to ask: what happens when you can't tell the difference?

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