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Post by amelius »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #82
amelius wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this were true, restaurants would already have these robots. Also, I'm talking about real cooking, not some mechanized approximation that produces meals akin to fast food, or the microwave stuff you can already buy in the supermarket.

As a robotics engineer I don’t think it’s true that “if it were a robotics problem it would be solved.” Robotics for non industrial uses are basically in their infancy. Also I am of the opinion that the best way to make a meal is a purpose built series of small machines to perform different tasks. So you have an onion preparation machine which peels and cores the onions and maybe also performs onion-specific slicing.…

> Also I am of the opinion that the best way to make a meal is a purpose built series of small machines to perform different tasks.

But these machines take a lot of space and require cleaning. Much better to have a robot with two hands that can perform more generalized tasks.

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Post by mnahkies »

TuringNYC wrote: post #26
forrestthewoods wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kind of. They all run Stable Diffusion because they released fully open source. There’s still competitive advantage to owning, training, and gatekeeping access to models. MidJourney and DallE are both superior to Stable Diffusion along many axes. Monetizing models is tricky because it’s so cheap to run locally but so expensive in the cloud. Except if you release your model such that it can run locally all advantage i…

>> Monetizing models is tricky because it’s so cheap to run locally but so expensive in the cloud. Can you expand on this a bit? The way i'm thinking, that is only the case if you need low-latency. And in that case, it seems you just need to charge to cover compute. We're running Stable Diffusion on an eks cluster and it evens out the load across calls and prevents over-resourcing. If latency isnt an issue, it can be…

It's not quite lambda, but GKE auto pilot supports GPU workloads, so it could be a relatively easy way to do this.

You could have a rest service sticking incoming requests into a queue, and then a processor deployment picking off the queue using the GPU resource requests / spot instances. You'd probably also want something to be scaling the processor deployment replicas based on the queue depth and your budget.

I haven't compared the pricing to EKS so unsure if it would really be better financially, but it would avoid having to manage scaling up/down GPU nodes explicitly.

https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/docs/how-to/autop...

Re: Bunny AI

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Post by snowram »

_xnmw wrote: post #118

Am I the only one disappointed by this new wave of AI hype? Seriously, autogenerated avatars? When are our best minds going to work towards actually improving the lives of people? Not monkey JPEG scams, not chat bot bureaucracies, not self-driving cars that fail in bad weather and kill you, but something that actually alleviates humanity's biggest problems. Energy, homelessness, pollution and the environment, afforda…

Machine learning has been used for cancer imaging and geospatial detection for some years now. You can't blame the internet to hype the funs and lucratives parts of IAs first.

Re: Bunny AI

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Post by aliswe »

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #106
aliswe wrote: post #101

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Many users will use the service at once though, not evenly distributed ... so you might wanna overprovision. Which is basically what you dont wanna do - profitability is reached by underprovisioning.

I think for an AI generation service this problem is actually more solvable than usual. You can slow down how fast the results are returned, which will slow down the demand. Charge more for a higher tier that gets prioritized. People are going to be a somewhat bothered if the result takes 10 seconds instead of 1 second, but it’s not the end of the world if it’s a rare event. If Netflix can’t keep up with demand and y…

yes yes, i was contemplating game streaming.

Re: Bunny AI

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Post by cshimmin »

_xnmw wrote: post #118

Am I the only one disappointed by this new wave of AI hype? Seriously, autogenerated avatars? When are our best minds going to work towards actually improving the lives of people? Not monkey JPEG scams, not chat bot bureaucracies, not self-driving cars that fail in bad weather and kill you, but something that actually alleviates humanity's biggest problems. Energy, homelessness, pollution and the environment, afforda…

I'm pretty sure "our best minds" aren't the ones building the ape avatars. They are working on the fundamental advancements of AI itself. Once those tools are built, it doesn't take nearly as much "best brains" to tweak them for specific applications.

In other words, you can just think of all these things (cash grabs and otherwise) as an effect of the rapid advancements in AI, in this case manifesting as a growth area of economic activity. As another poster said, others are working on medical applications, climate models, etc. It's not a zero-sum game on the application side.

Re: Bunny AI

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Post by zppln »

zzzeek wrote: post #22

Saw a great toot yesterday. Startups and media business are looking to make a windfall on AI generated art, music, code, writing, and other services. The payment models will be subscriptions, pay per use, and other models that make more money the more content is produced. But there's still no AI (with associated mechanics) that can fold laundry. (I think the latter would be really useful.)

I'd be happy just to have the moving of wet clothes from the washing machine into the tumbler automated. But not even this science can provide. :(

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Post by mejutoco »

zzzeek wrote: post #22

Saw a great toot yesterday. Startups and media business are looking to make a windfall on AI generated art, music, code, writing, and other services. The payment models will be subscriptions, pay per use, and other models that make more money the more content is produced. But there's still no AI (with associated mechanics) that can fold laundry. (I think the latter would be really useful.)

I want AI that separates the trash into plastics, metal, etc. so we do not have to do it (or for the people that cannot be bothered to do it).

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Post by joking »

_xnmw wrote: post #118

Am I the only one disappointed by this new wave of AI hype? Seriously, autogenerated avatars? When are our best minds going to work towards actually improving the lives of people? Not monkey JPEG scams, not chat bot bureaucracies, not self-driving cars that fail in bad weather and kill you, but something that actually alleviates humanity's biggest problems. Energy, homelessness, pollution and the environment, afforda…

well, an ape ai cdn would be the best way to destroy the monkey jpg scam. Who would pay for them in that case?

Re: Bunny AI

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Post by mejutoco »

fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #33
rileyphone wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nvidia’s business model makes it inherently more expensive to run on the cloud.

Ah, do you have to contract when you buy the cheap GPUs that you might use then for game streaming but you won’t do AI inference? Makes me wonder if you could first-sale-doctrine your way out of that problem by buying the GPUs on eBay and not making any agreement with Nvidia.

AFAIK Nvidia restricts which GPUs you can run in a datacenter, so you cannot buy, for instance, RTX 4090 and use it in a datacenter. You need to buy the datacenter, and much more expensive, cards.

Re: Bunny AI

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Post by graphe »

_xnmw wrote: post #118

Am I the only one disappointed by this new wave of AI hype? Seriously, autogenerated avatars? When are our best minds going to work towards actually improving the lives of people? Not monkey JPEG scams, not chat bot bureaucracies, not self-driving cars that fail in bad weather and kill you, but something that actually alleviates humanity's biggest problems. Energy, homelessness, pollution and the environment, afforda…

How is AI going to solve the problems of energy, homelessness, pollution, the environment, affordable housing crises in the West, content moderation, and the loneliness epidemic?

Think of what you’re asking from it. You don’t ask coke to solve corona or google to solve world hunger. None of those issues are bottlenecked by AI. If you want to solve those issues, you shouldn’t expect AI researchers to fix them, you can be that change.

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