The future our grandchildren deserve

Post by slothtrop » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 3:52 PM UTC

Xelynega wrote: post #89

slothtrop wrote: post #17

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The first paragraph is all you need. Instances of consumerism that are a problem can be dampened through tax or other means, but it's a moot point because environmental encroachment scales with demand. If demand is stagnant (because the population is, and has already been lifted out of poverty enough to demand things), then there's no question of sustainability for basically anything, except certain finite resources.…

It's all you "need" from one perspective, but if the topic is "the future our grandchildren deserve" than a criticism of consumerism that seeks to eradicate it is relevant(IMO) and isn't equivalent to minimizing it with "tax and other means".

Post by pseudo0 » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 4:33 PM UTC

isthisthingon99 wrote: post #81

pseudo0 wrote: post #71

> Our work on education goes back to the foundation’s earliest days, and our focus on improving math skills goes back almost as far. Although there are many factors that affect a student’s trajectory, the evidence shows that it’s extremely important for them to succeed in math. For example, those who pass Algebra I by ninth grade are twice as likely to graduate from high school and more likely to go on to college, ge…

Not to offend you but it sounds like you've never taught an economically disadvantaged child. The first step is they need to feel that they can do it, already a tall order. Learning disabilities are not that relevant here.

Post by slothtrop » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 7:37 PM UTC

Xelynega wrote: post #122

slothtrop wrote: post #121

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Why is it relevant? Are you ascribing to consumerism by nature the prospect of an undesirable future?

I'm ascribing a desirable future to be beyond consumerism, so I'm critiquing an article called "the future our grandchildren deserve" that is based in consumerism.

Post by isthisthingon99 » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 11:48 PM UTC

pseudo0 wrote: post #123

isthisthingon99 wrote: post #81

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Not to offend you but it sounds like you've never taught an economically disadvantaged child. The first step is they need to feel that they can do it, already a tall order. Learning disabilities are not that relevant here.

I tutored both economically disadvantaged students, and students with significant learning disabilities. My experience was that the economically disadvantaged students generally could make progress, if you caught them on a good day. Tutoring some of the students with learning disabilities was profoundly depressing though. Some students simply could not understand basic abstraction, like the idea that 'x' represents a…