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Actually it sounds very European to me - banning known hooligans from soccer stadiums? https://www.wired.com/story/soccer-world-cup-biometric-surve... https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/26/15435620/champions-league...
You don't need any facial recognition for that, just get their ID to check if they are not banned while selling them tickets.
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What was the phone requirement that you refused? Did they want to confiscate your phone, lock it in a bag you physically couldn’t open, seal it in an envelope you got to keep but could open in an emergency, just demand you keep it in your pocket…?
My guess would be "no phone allowed." (Specifically, no video recording allowed, but most enforcement is too stupid so they have a blanket restriction.)
Most of the time who gets caught are the ones that bring a full video camera. (Poor Rammstein requests no filming but people have their phones out the whole time.. comes with a big show)
This is an extra enforcement deal I'm referring to.
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MSG Certainly does not abide by that.("you have to let ticket holders in") I was banned entry [Chicago Theater] (not formally but at the door which was weird as that I was not trying to progress in) for refusing to encase my phone in the yonder pouch. Once denied, I requested a full refund of my ticket. I don't recall having the notice when I bought the ticket and the the ticket didn't state the phone casing. (This w…
You could have launched a lawsuit claim damages.
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What really bothers me here is that the lady wasn't even involved in a lawsuit against Radio City Music Hall, it just happens to be the case that they're connected through some billion dollar conglomerate to the restaurant that she's involved in litigation with. Pissing off a mom and pop store and getting banned from that one location is one thing, but treading on the toe of an enormous corporation and being met with…
Yeah the possible chilling effect here is terrifying tbh, especially with all the mergers happening. Using the courts to get redress is a core pillar of our world (whether it should be or not is another topic). Imagine if Live Nation had a policy that anybody who works for any firm who is involved in any litigation against the company (or it’s many subsidiaries) can’t attend any of their shows or go to any of their v…
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This sort of thing, everywhere, is exactly what to expect from "deregulation".
I'm unclear on how this is a regulation or deregulation thing. There could be a regulation that specifically allows for or denies smartphones at such events. It's hypothetical at this point, so why is deregulation to blame in this case now?
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This sort of thing, everywhere, is exactly what to expect from "deregulation".
I'm unclear on how this is a regulation or deregulation thing. There could be a regulation that specifically allows for or denies smartphones at such events. It's hypothetical at this point, so why is deregulation to blame in this case now?
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What was the phone requirement that you refused? Did they want to confiscate your phone, lock it in a bag you physically couldn’t open, seal it in an envelope you got to keep but could open in an emergency, just demand you keep it in your pocket…?
The yondr bags are sealed faraday cages to keep you from recording the show or being on your phone.
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Your totally ignore the key element here: a new technology is allowing denying entry at a whole new scale. Nobody really has an objection to organization blocking a single individual who is might cause trouble. But blocking an entire class of people is a) newly enabled* and b) much more harmful to society. If a venue kicked out a lawyer who was actively working on a lawsuit against the venue, nobody would bat an eye.…
Who cares what technology they use? They could also check ids at the door and cross-reference their naughty list. Everything seems to involve an id check these days. Maybe there's some contractual issue here - they sold you a ticket, that establishes a contract, they're breaking the contract by denying you entry. They should have performed the naughty check earlier in the process? I think it's all pretty stupid but o…
I get it’s a harder problem to restrict who tickets are sold to, but if a venue like that wants to get petty about who can attend their shows then the responsibility is on them to communicate that before the event.
To flip this another way, in any other normal circumstance, when you get banned from a venue you’d get a very clear communication telling you so. There is no ambiguity, you know you’re banned. Yet here the venue is still happy to take peoples money but doesn’t want to admit them. They’re basically having the best of both worlds.
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My guess would be "no phone allowed." (Specifically, no video recording allowed, but most enforcement is too stupid so they have a blanket restriction.)
There's also a 'I as the artist don't like to see the audience on their phone' component a lot of the time as well.
1. They don't want their show recorded.
2. They don't want their show "leaking" on the internet ("loss of ticket sells")
3. People using their phones "ruin the experience"
Realistically it's due to:
1. They say libalious things. (Aka Hanable Burris talking about Cosby before formal conversations were had) Also, they say things that upset groups of people who try to "boycott." Aka Louie and the Parkland shooting joke./"Cancelled"
2. They are pissy about bad recordings going up on the internet and being caught behaving badly. (https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/dave-chappelle-fan...)
3. It's there to protect notorious joke stealers from being caught in the act.
So I have been rejected and "banned" from a MSG venue. It's not fun, and it has nothing to do with your behavior. It was at the Chicago Theather and it was the Chris Rock show back in 2017. I bought the ticket, I don't believe that it had any special restrictions [this was a long time ago], the ticket had no indications about the "phoneless"/phone encasing demand. The event page didn't say anything about this. Howeve…