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Re: Tell HN: Your Android carrier can remotely turn settings on

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I can totally understand why Americans would want to silence these. I'm from the UK and I was in Central Park with my wife and kids when we got an 'Amber Alert' which said something like 'Black Ford SUV reg XYZ123' or something equally cryptic. It was not long after the terrorist attack in Nice where a guy drove a truck thorough a crowd of people walking beside the beach. Everyone's phones started going at the same t…

I don't seem to get these alerts since I switched to a de-googled version of android

Re: Tell HN: Your Android carrier can remotely turn settings on

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If you are using the Android OS originally installed on the phone, you can deactivate many of these at the OS level (not baseband) using ADB. This does not require rooting. An easy way to find and deactivate these codes is to use the UAD (Universal Android Debloater) found on Github.

Yes. I can confirm this worked on a non rooted phone in Canada. GUI settings were being ignored. I think the first alert I confirmed not getting was for a weather warning 500 km away.

Re: Tell HN: Your Android carrier can remotely turn settings on

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post #58

Absolutely, they can change this setting, in lots of different ways. Originally emergency services were set up by fields offered by the SIM. Occasionally these settings change, so an update mechanism had to be established. - Android comes with a list of carriers and their required configurations; when the MNC and MMC provided by the SIM match a carrier on that list, Android uses the configuration from that list. This…

Thank you for the detailed pointers.

Re: Tell HN: Your Android carrier can remotely turn settings on

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post #103
post #77

I can totally understand why Americans would want to silence these. I'm from the UK and I was in Central Park with my wife and kids when we got an 'Amber Alert' which said something like 'Black Ford SUV reg XYZ123' or something equally cryptic. It was not long after the terrorist attack in Nice where a guy drove a truck thorough a crowd of people walking beside the beach. Everyone's phones started going at the same t…

Ex boyfriend disappearing with a child is totally worth an Amber Alert, and a couple hundred miles is only a couple hours drive by the time they put the alert out...its easy enough to just keep an eye out for a license plate. Nobody is going to know for sure if its a false alarm, or if we'll wind up with a murdered child until after the fact, so why wait or ignore it?

IIRC they are just as loud and annoying as an earthquake alert. This makes earthquake alerts less useful.

Amber/Silver/Blue alerts should be more like a regular notification.

Re: Tell HN: Your Android carrier can remotely turn settings on

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post #77

I can totally understand why Americans would want to silence these. I'm from the UK and I was in Central Park with my wife and kids when we got an 'Amber Alert' which said something like 'Black Ford SUV reg XYZ123' or something equally cryptic. It was not long after the terrorist attack in Nice where a guy drove a truck thorough a crowd of people walking beside the beach. Everyone's phones started going at the same t…

>I can totally understand why Americans would want to silence these. Oh, it gets better. We also, by default, get alerts for severe/extreme weather. Nothing like getting an emergency alert because a tornado touched down on the other side of the state, or a flash-flood warning while you're at home, 300' above the nearest body of water.

That's really not at all fair, the NWS has put a lot of effort since the Joplin tornado into localizing warnings as much as possible to the affected area. They may geolocate the warning based on the tower rather than the phone, but that's still a long way away from "across the state". And you maybe should look into it, but flash floods have nothing to do with bodies of water. You could be 1k feet above a lake on the side of a mountain, but that mudslide caused by torrential rain might be a problem for you.

Re: Tell HN: Your Android carrier can remotely turn settings on

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Wait until your learn what a country or local government/police can do remotely to the baseband firmware of your phone with a court order... 10-20 years ago the FBI was regularly remotely programming firmware to listen in and record cell phone microphones to capture conversations of suspects. IIRC a mafia case hinged on data gathered in this way so it is not some abstract theoretical or crackpot theory ( https://www.…

I rotate burner SIM's. I never make calls with the SIM. Instead I use jmp.chat if I need to use OTA calls or SMS. I am in airplane mode 99% of the time and use WIFI instead of cellular. I never activate cellular near my home. I am always connected to VPN so that the traffic cannot be analyzed. My phone is anonymous without any identifiers. I think all this mitigates the baseband attacks, but tell me if I am missing s…

>I rotate burner SIM's. I never make calls with the SIM.

Do your family and friends do that?

Maybe it's better to blend in with the noise.

Re: Tell HN: Your Android carrier can remotely turn settings on

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I rotate burner SIM's. I never make calls with the SIM. Instead I use jmp.chat if I need to use OTA calls or SMS. I am in airplane mode 99% of the time and use WIFI instead of cellular. I never activate cellular near my home. I am always connected to VPN so that the traffic cannot be analyzed. My phone is anonymous without any identifiers. I think all this mitigates the baseband attacks, but tell me if I am missing s…

I break into Tiffany's at midnight. Do I go for the vault? No, I go for the chandelier. It's priceless. As I'm taking it down, a woman catches me. She tells me to stop. It's her father's business. She's Tiffany. I say no. We make love all night. In the morning, the cops come and I escape in one of their uniforms. I tell her to meet me in Mexico, but I go to Canada. I don't trust her. Besides, I like the cold. Thirty…

Absolutely lost it at the coworking place. Luckily it wasn't too packed. Thank you kind sir.

Re: Tell HN: Your Android carrier can remotely turn settings on

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post #77

I can totally understand why Americans would want to silence these. I'm from the UK and I was in Central Park with my wife and kids when we got an 'Amber Alert' which said something like 'Black Ford SUV reg XYZ123' or something equally cryptic. It was not long after the terrorist attack in Nice where a guy drove a truck thorough a crowd of people walking beside the beach. Everyone's phones started going at the same t…

On iOS you can opt out of almost all of these. Concerned people can keep them on. Defaults may be an issue here, but it's nowhere near as concerning as government having hooks in the baseband.

Re: Tell HN: Your Android carrier can remotely turn settings on

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The local (EU) law about emergency broadcast is clear in that it applies to both residents and visitors, and alerts are to be delivered without the need for “opt-in”. In other words, if you’re in range of local services, you must receive the alerts (which, you know, is handy in case of an actual emergency).

My device should serve me, not the EU. If I choose to violate EU emergency alert laws, that's on me.

For other use cases, I'd probably agree with you. But you being startled and confused during an emergency because you didn't see the instructions on time can be very dangerous for everyone around you. It's not just on you.
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