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I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

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Re: I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

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Anybody have a pointer to the "iHole" story mentioned in the article? It seems to have been purged not just from the author's website, but archive.* as well. https://www.juliangough.com/the-ihole-in-original-apple-fl/

Is this it, further down the page? https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/2684207-an-open-...

Another copy.

https://pasteboss.com/ihole-game/

Re: I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

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post #66

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Microsoft probably doesn’t own the ending to Minecraft, since my non-lawyer understanding is that assignment must be done a particular way unless it is done in very specific terms as a ‘work for hire.’ However, his acceptance of the money, things written in his emails, the poem itself or other behaviors, could possibly form a case that he implicitly assigned a transferable non-exclusive license to Mojang for it to be…

The author acknowledges that he gave implicit permission to Notch/Mojang, and goes so far as to mention that the permission only extended to the original PC version of the game (which is all that existed at the time).

> I was stunned, I didn’t understand what was happening, and so I said, OK, I’ll take whatever the first thing you offered was. The friendship is more important than the money.

I don’t think we know exactly how this offer was worded and, therefore, what the 10k euros bought.

Re: I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

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I mean we can squabble about what the definition of "most popular game of all time is", but if you're going with "the game that has sold the most units ever", it literally is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_g... (TFA links to that page toward the end.)

you make the same mistake of the op.

Which is?

Re: I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

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post #60

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How can you call asking for nothing entitlement?

It's the attitude espoused in the writing. The outcome was literally his way of not letting his own frustration consume him and only available to him after doing heavy doses of psychedelics. I'm glad he was able to let go because his attitude of being entitled to something when he was, in fact, not, is what has been causing him all the pain.

I think we all can empathize with the guy. He was close to massively successful people and he clearly contributed something soulful. It is the end jewel of the most successful game of all time! I feel for him and think this was a really nice outcome for everyone.

(I just wish the essay was edited down by 1/3, but that’s me)

Re: I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

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If he actually received $20,000 that still seems like a lot? Especially in a world where freelance writing is $0.01-$0.50 (pre-GPT3). And it sounds like at the time it was good money for the artist. I get that he feels like he was given a small amount relative to the great success of Minecraft, but I would hope he also realizes that it was risk free cash.

That was my reaction too, 20,000 (euros) seems quite decent for a tiny freelance engagement, and just skimming the contract, that all seems bog-standard, too. If he didn't think the money was fair, he shouldn't have accepted it. I expect Mojang would have simply pulled the plug and gone with someone else if he had done so. This really just smacks of sour grapes that Mojang was sold for squillions and the author feels…

Indeed. This was a great deal for the writer. He wasn't part of the team. He was a contract writer. €20k is a lot of dosh for a few pages of text. It smacks of trivializing all of the work of the people who spent months working on it because he feels like he didn't get a big enough piece of the pie. It sounds like that got lost in the fog of war, because otherwise they'd just have said, "Ok, that's enough. We'll just hire someone else for half the price."

I honestly suspect the €20k figure was, "Let's offer him a big enough number so that we don't have to be distracted by negotiating this." And then began the long-winded and self-important wall-of-text emails.

Re: I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

#126

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If he actually received $20,000 that still seems like a lot? Especially in a world where freelance writing is $0.01-$0.50 (pre-GPT3). And it sounds like at the time it was good money for the artist. I get that he feels like he was given a small amount relative to the great success of Minecraft, but I would hope he also realizes that it was risk free cash.

That was my reaction too, 20,000 (euros) seems quite decent for a tiny freelance engagement, and just skimming the contract, that all seems bog-standard, too. If he didn't think the money was fair, he shouldn't have accepted it. I expect Mojang would have simply pulled the plug and gone with someone else if he had done so. This really just smacks of sour grapes that Mojang was sold for squillions and the author feels…

Mojang was not a tiny indie company though, it already sold millions of copies before the release. Yes, he should have let his agent negotiate the contract. Do what you are good at and let others do what they are good at.

Re: I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

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post #80

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For usage rights, probably so. But a transfer has stricter requirements in most countries, and it doesn't mean he agreed to all the other clauses in the contract that he hadn't even seen at the time.

Indeed this is quite messy. Julian was a fool for agreeing to something he hadn't read, and Carl was a fool for paying him before he signed it.

Carl was the smart one, by the sound of it they still would be going back and forth on the meaning of fair.

Re: I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

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That's a lot of anger, negativity and bitterness, and entitlement (one of the game's creators for writing the ending text?). Reminds me of the kid on the cover of the Nevermind album and other people that are kinda tangentially connected to something massively successful, but not connected enough to benefit materially, and they let that define who they are and ruin their lives. Could have been a neat personal story,…

And not just entitlement, it's enjoyment coming from the worst place. This guy by his own admission never made the effort to fight for money, instead prioritizing love, whatever that means, but when it comes to getting paid he feels entitled to money. He just wants "fair" without having to make the effort to think about what that means.

Did we read the same thing? He says he felt at the time that he should have got something. Much of the post is about him avoiding trying to get any money. He had some issues, sure. Still has, by the look of it. But it’s not accurate to say he’s greedy and entitled. He failed to understand the situation he was in, got something that seemed good but was actually not that good (which does happen all the time), went through all sorts of weird metaphysical things (not my cup of tea, but I am not him), and apparently ended up somewhat satisfied in the end.

We can disagree with him, the writing is rambling and takes for ever to get to the point, and then hits it on the head repeatedly, but in the end it does not matter. I suspect what is important (to him) is that he’s written it, not that you read it.

Anyway, I am surprised to see so much hostility here.

Re: I liberate the ending to Minecraft from Microsoft and give it to you

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post #46

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What negatives were there? From what I know he bought a mansion and became a twitter shitposter.

And that's the pinnacle of what anyone would want out of life?

> And that's the pinnacle of what anyone would want out of life?

No one claimed that it was. Buying a mansion and shitposting on twitter isn't exactly the sign of being a failure, is it?

By all measureable metrics, I'd assume that his life is better than 90% of people that started life in the same socioeconomic class that he did.

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