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The great Covid and smoking cover-up?
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Re: The great Covid and smoking cover-up?
#122Author compiled a lot of studies on his web log: https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2021/08/smoking-and... The studies do appear to show that smoking cigarettes is correlated with a lower probability of getting the Covid, for a lot of different definitions of "getting the Covid." They also appear to be, by eyeball aggregate, inconclusive as to whether the risk of dying from the Covid is higher or lower for smok…
The editorializing on “smoking is bad” is moot—we all know it and it’s not the point.
Re: The great Covid and smoking cover-up?
#123On the balance, aren't the risks still heavily against smoking? So what's the point of promoting one benefit of smoking when you still want to advise everyone to stop or never start smoking? This article suggests a coverup, but as the author points out, there's no shortage of science showing that smoking is associated with a lower chance of getting Covid. The author is really complaining about the interpretations and…
On the balance, aren't the risks still heavily against smoking?
Yes.
So what's the point of promoting one benefit of smoking when you still want to advise everyone to stop or never start smoking?
The first point is honesty, and that should be sufficient on its own. But even ignoring that, the obvious next step is to figure out the mechanism by which smoking inhibits Covid, which may lead to better vaccines or treatments.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anecdata but the more "official" covid subreddits /r/coronavirus and then /r/covid19 started off pretty free speech but then began bringing in more and more moderation and allowing less divergence from agreed upon narrative, if parent poster is a heavy Reddit user perhaps that is where their feelings come from.
> Anecdata but the more "official" covid subreddits /r/coronavirus and then /r/covid19 brought started off pretty free speech but then began bringing in more and more moderation (...) Aren't you talking about the growth in conspiracy nuts fabricating all sorts of conspiracy theories and assorted loony claims, such as the infamous "covid is caused by 5G" idiot fest, which were flooding covid-related forums? Are we now…
> “Are we now expected to…”
I think you are jumping waaay past the assertion you are replying to.
Re: The great Covid and smoking cover-up?
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
After being given this information, a reasonable person would conclude that while smoking might decrease their risk of getting COVID, starting a smoking habit (possibly leading to addiction) would mean likely worse health outcomes than just accepting the risk of getting COVID (which can be lowered significantly through much safer means). Unfortunately, there are lot of unreasonable people out there. I would not be su…
I think the most likely outcome is for a certain subset of the population to think “I don’t need to get vaccinated, I smoke cigarettes.”
And they would have been right.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please point out anywhere that "officially correct information" stated that n95 masks did not reduce the chance of infection. Very early on, I recall statements discouraging mask use because of concerns the public would incorrectly wear them and increase their risk. At that time there was very limited information about how COVID-19 spread, with the NY Subway steam cleaning their cars on a nightly basis, and people wa…
I can find tons of examples very easily. The last link is a video of Fauci saying masks won't help and aren't worth it. At the time, if you said people should wear masks, you were 'spreading misinformation'. https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_e58c20c6-8... "While Fauci, along with several other US health leaders, initially advised people not to wear masks, Fauci later said that he was concerned that th…
Absolutely NONE of your sources quotes anyone claiming that N95 masks don't protect against disease.
In several cases, (early on) the statement was made that "drugstore" (surgical) masks won't protect the wearer, and only those with symptoms were recommended to wear them. That changed when research showed asymptomatic people were spreading COVID-19, then it was suggested that EVERYONE wear a (cloth or surgical) mask, not to protect themselves, but to protect the public from you. Other than that, everything said was and is still true.
Nothing about N95 masks specifically... Probably because the public just couldn't buy them at the time.
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#127This story is trying way too hard to be controversial, starting with the incorrect claim that “back then Big Tech’s fact-checkers were still describing claims about SARS-CoV-2 being airborne and face masks preventing infection as ‘misleading’”. His recounting of his personal Google search results is an amusing anecdote but it’s just showing his search history - the same search without a Google cookie turns up a coupl…
> the incorrect claim that “back then Big Tech’s fact-checkers were still describing claims about SARS-CoV-2 being airborne and face masks preventing infection as ‘misleading’”. This is a not an incorrect claim, it is a correct claim.
You just made a claim, about a claim, about a claim, about a claim.
My claim is that it is getting too deep.
Re: The great Covid and smoking cover-up?
#128Author compiled a lot of studies on his web log: https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2021/08/smoking-and... The studies do appear to show that smoking cigarettes is correlated with a lower probability of getting the Covid, for a lot of different definitions of "getting the Covid." They also appear to be, by eyeball aggregate, inconclusive as to whether the risk of dying from the Covid is higher or lower for smok…
> The studies do appear to show that smoking cigarettes is correlated with a lower probability of getting the Covid The problem is that non-smokers is not a single category of people, so the confounding factor for the correlation is "why X does not smoke". For example, if you had a study which compared moderate drinkers to non-drinkers, but not carve out "cannot drink due to other medication" from the second group, y…
> For example, if you had a study which compared moderate drinkers to non-drinkers, but not carve out "cannot drink due to other medication" from the second group, you get a more discriminatory result from the study.
This is in fact what seems to have been underneath all those studies 10-25 years ago that seemed to show that non-drinkers have worse health outcomes than moderate drinkers. The problem is that "non-drinkers" includes a lot of people who can't drink because they're already sick or because they're alcoholics and drug addicts with long histories of abuse (and so on).
Once you control for that group non-drinkers do better than moderate drinkers.
Re: The great Covid and smoking cover-up?
#129Author compiled a lot of studies on his web log: https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2021/08/smoking-and... The studies do appear to show that smoking cigarettes is correlated with a lower probability of getting the Covid, for a lot of different definitions of "getting the Covid." They also appear to be, by eyeball aggregate, inconclusive as to whether the risk of dying from the Covid is higher or lower for smok…
> on his web log Also called blog, since ~20 years.
blog? That word is so last year. That's an extented tweet or non-visual tiktok movie.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Equally we have many studies showing that vitamin D helps to reduce risk from covid (hint: it doesn't). More studies show that ivermectin has a positive effect in covid patients. In fact, ivermectin has no effect or has only a very weak effect in certain patients. In medicine observational studies suffer from certain problems that are hard to overcome. The biggest is that the groups are not equal. For example, smoker…
There is very good evidence that vitamin D in general helps your immune response. It may be that there is a second factor here (another commenter suggested that UVA light was also involved in this process), but the evidence in favor of boosting your immune response by getting sunlight every day is pretty conclusive. I would be surprised if this study was a vindication of vitamin D, though, rather than a false positiv…
> generally have negative effects on your overall health
smoking tobacco for years, every day, definitely changes your body. Most of those effects are not great in the long run, yet many people start and continue to smoke cigarettes for years on end. The change to lung tissue, mucus membranes, tongue, mouth ecosystem.. are real.. and for an otherwise healthy person, yes, they have to get "tougher".