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Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Post by tetris11 »

9wzYQbTYsAIc wrote: post #105
wizeman wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think we are going to have to take an aggressive stance against mediocre generated content here on HN, lest this small island of community be lost like the rest of the Old Internet. How do you propose we do that? And what do you propose we do when ChatGPT (or something like it) can create better content than most humans? (... which I would argue it is already happening in some limited contexts, although I admit m…

> How do you propose we do that? One technique, like all the other self-moderation that you can do on HN: stop upvoting and commenting on content that you don’t want to see boosted.

Voting with your wallet only works if a large portion of consumers both agree and understand your point of view

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Post by sydd »

closeparen wrote: post #59
ethanbond wrote: post #57

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Gotta love it. Akin to Silicon Valley-ites ensuring their own children don’t have access to the technologies they go into the office to create and propagate every day.

I would expect most automotive engineers don't let their children drive the cars they go to the office to create and propagate every day. Because... they're children.

I think the poster above meant that e.g. engineers are Meta are paying very good money so their children go to private schools where they confiscate phones. Or that they dont buy phones at all for their kids until they turn like 12, instead pay a lot of money so they go to private tutors, have nannies, do all kinds of after school programmes. Whereas kids from poor families cannot afford these or to keep watch of their kids 24/7 (because they need to work), so these kids will hang on Facebook/Youtube/TikTok/.. all day

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Post by formerly_proven »

wellthisisgreat wrote: post #108
wizeman wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think we are going to have to take an aggressive stance against mediocre generated content here on HN, lest this small island of community be lost like the rest of the Old Internet. How do you propose we do that? And what do you propose we do when ChatGPT (or something like it) can create better content than most humans? (... which I would argue it is already happening in some limited contexts, although I admit m…

hard bans for undisclosed machine-generated submissions?

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Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Post by YuriNiyazov »

formerly_proven wrote: post #116
wizeman wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think we are going to have to take an aggressive stance against mediocre generated content here on HN, lest this small island of community be lost like the rest of the Old Internet. How do you propose we do that? And what do you propose we do when ChatGPT (or something like it) can create better content than most humans? (... which I would argue it is already happening in some limited contexts, although I admit m…

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I see you, GPT-3.

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Post by biggerChris »

theptip wrote: post #41
brindidrip wrote: post #26

It seems like there are a few potential negative consequences of using AI-generated answers on Stack Overflow. For one, the quality of the answers may be lower than if they were written by a human. Additionally, if these AI-generated answers become too common, it could potentially lead to a more impersonal and less supportive community on Stack Overflow. Finally, if the AI is able to search the internet and "inbreed"…

Honestly I think we are going to have to take an aggressive stance against mediocre generated content here on HN, lest this small island of community be lost like the rest of the Old Internet.

I have -9 points. HN is doing well to prevent people from commenting without facts.

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Post by JW_00000 »

snek_case wrote: post #42
ubj wrote: post #37

And so it begins. Welcome to the new internet. I'm bracing myself for when this wave of AI content hits academic journals.

With a bit more refinement, if it had the ability to generate graphs, etc, it might be able to generate very believable papers. At least, believable enough that you can't tell without reading the paper attentively.

Instead of spending 6 months laboriously doing experiments in a lab, and then a month writing up their results in a paper, researchers can already write a paper in one month if they just invent the numbers without actually doing the experiments. Peer review doesn't check for this. This only further reduces that one month to 5 minutes (+ hours of fiddling with LaTeX templates?). But in both cases if it gets found out your career is over...

However what about generating patents? To get a patent you don't need to have done any experiments that prove your technique actually works :)

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Post by mike_hearn »

dejj wrote: post #43
arkitaip wrote: post #32

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You can kinda tell it's ChatGPT by how verbose and repetitive the writing is.

Can’t we have ChatGPT identify output of ChatGPT, adversarily?

You don't need adversarial AI to do that. Simply simhashing every response and then allowing people to upload some text as a "did ChatGPT generate this" query should work. Just ordinary software is sufficient.

Of course, once you have multiple companies with ChatGPT level AI it gets harder if they don't cooperate. But they easily could. The big webmail providers cooperate to fight spam, for example.

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Post by jerjerjer »

mojuba wrote: post #31
ggerganov wrote: post #21

I was thinking, what part of HN comments do you think are already AI-generated? As a human, I cannot give an accurate estimate. /joke

Who cares if the comments are good enough?

Astroturfing on an unprecedented scale. Want to pump your shitcoin? Sure! Hype some new thing? Easily!

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Post by fouric »

tpxl wrote: post #118
fouric wrote: post #51

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> I would not be surprised if it is already here, but has been sidelined by the mods I can virtually guarantee you that there's been a nontrivial amount of GPT-generated content on HN that has not been caught by mods since ChatGPT, and likely since GPT-2/3, as well. Dang (and the other one whose tag I can't recall) already have their hands full trying to keep the tone civil across thousands (tens of thousands?) of co…

> people actually reading the content of comments very carefully and upvoting logically sound arguments You can make a perfectly logical comment that is completely wrong.

Please elaborate.
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