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Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities
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>You’re the one who has constructed an entire backstory here not me.
It is true that you are not the one who constructed the backstory of "Buying Twitter + publicly stating that the Ukraine War might not end with Ukraine winning 200% of its goals = 'problem with natsec'", but it does you no favor for merely being the mindless echoer.
>You even managed to get the country wrong which was impressive.
If you're referring to my stating that Musk is an American, he is a naturalized US citizen; he'd have to be, to comply with ITAR regulations regarding SpaceX.
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They don't care, Gwynne Shotwell runs the company. But I do foresee a future in which the SEC bars Musk from holding any executive position for any number of things he has done.
> They don't care, Gwynne Shotwell runs the company. This isn't really true in as much as no one person can "run" a company. She acts as in her role as Chief Operations Officer and President of the company. She doesn't set long term vision and she doesn't generally handle projects that are in early incubation. > But I do foresee a future in which the SEC bars Musk from holding any executive position for any number of…
Isn't spacex privately held?
That'd mean that the SEC's opinions of Musks character, however valid, would have even less weight there than they might at Tesla or wherever else.
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>You’re the one who has constructed an entire backstory here not me. It is true that you are not the one who constructed the backstory of "Buying Twitter + publicly stating that the Ukraine War might not end with Ukraine winning 200% of its goals = 'problem with natsec'", but it does you no favor for merely being the mindless echoer. >You even managed to get the country wrong which was impressive. If you're referring…
> It is true that you are not the one who constructed the backstory of "Buying Twitter + publicly stating that the Ukraine War might not end with Ukraine winning 200% of its goals = 'problem with natsec'", but it does you no favor for merely being the mindless echoer.
Elon Musk didn't say that Ukraine might not win, he actively pushed for Ukraine to cede territory to Russia, which is pretty much exactly what Russia wants.
Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities
#125One thing that people miss is the fact that in the event of any type of a "big" war between superpowers satellites are going to be heavily affected and probably one of the first targets. Having something like this, having that kind of speed in deploying new satellites is going to be a superpower to the USA.
Any "big" war between superpowers is going to be over in a day because it's sheer utter hubris to imagine surviving with any quality of life afterwards. Sure the the elites will have their billion dollar bunkers but the modern life is over otherwise. Pandemic was a model of 1% of what fallout would be like. It seems warmongers have found an end-run around that though, proxy wars like Ukraine which is horrifying.
The Ukrainians, whose country was invaded, might take issue with your characterisation.
Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
>You’re the one who has constructed an entire backstory here not me. It is true that you are not the one who constructed the backstory of "Buying Twitter + publicly stating that the Ukraine War might not end with Ukraine winning 200% of its goals = 'problem with natsec'", but it does you no favor for merely being the mindless echoer. >You even managed to get the country wrong which was impressive. If you're referring…
> It is true that you are not the one who constructed the backstory of "Buying Twitter + publicly stating that the Ukraine War might not end with Ukraine winning 200% of its goals = 'problem with natsec'", but it does you no favor for merely being the mindless echoer. Elon Musk didn't say that Ukraine might not win, he actively pushed for Ukraine to cede territory to Russia, which is pretty much exactly what Russia w…
As I said, some sort of negotiated settlement is the way 90% of wars end. Proposing such is not "pretty much exactly what Russia wants", especially when Russia already occupied about 20% of Ukraine before February.
I've said since the start of the war https://np.reddit.com/r/CredibleDefense/comments/t2nbtx/lets...> that some such deal between Russia and rump Ukraine is a plausible, and perhaps the most likely, end to the war. Such a view, as I understand it, was and remains the consensus view among geopolitical experts.
"pretty much exactly what Russia wanted" as of February was to conquer Kiev rapidly, kill Zelensky and decapitate the Ukrainian government, and quickly end the war with it either absorbing all of Ukraine or much of it with a puppet regime in power ruling the remainder. That failed. Now the best it can likely hope for is some sort of negotiated deal as per above. That does not mean that the complete opposite of Russia's February goal—Russia forced out of all of eastern Ukraine, and even Crimea—is the likely outcome for Ukraine, either.
I repeat: Musk is a citizen of a country which is not actually a combatant in the war. The US has not declared war on Russia, there are no American troops fighting within Ukraine's borders, and the US embassy in Moscow remains open (and vice versa). Insta-denouncing any remark that isn't "Anything short of 100% victory for Ukraine = Putler wins!!!111!!1!!!" as wrongthink is just fatuous.
Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities
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> It is true that you are not the one who constructed the backstory of "Buying Twitter + publicly stating that the Ukraine War might not end with Ukraine winning 200% of its goals = 'problem with natsec'", but it does you no favor for merely being the mindless echoer. Elon Musk didn't say that Ukraine might not win, he actively pushed for Ukraine to cede territory to Russia, which is pretty much exactly what Russia w…
As I said, some sort of negotiated settlement is the way 90% of wars end. Proposing such is not "pretty much exactly what Russia wants", especially when Russia already occupied about 20% of Ukraine before February. I've said since the start of the war https://np.reddit.com/r/CredibleDefense/comments/t2nbtx/lets... > that some such deal between Russia and rump Ukraine is a plausible, and perhaps the most likely, end t…
> As I said, some sort of negotiated settlement is the way 90% of wars end. Proposing such is not "pretty much exactly what Russia wants", especially when Russia already occupied about 20% of Ukraine before February.
A negotiated settlement is not predicated on Ukraine ceding territory to Russia. Why shouldn't Russia cede territory to Ukraine over this war instead?.
> "pretty much exactly what Russia wanted" as of February was to conquer Kiev rapidly, kill Zelensky and decapitate the Ukrainian government, and quickly end the war with it either absorbing all of Ukraine or much of it with a puppet regime in power ruling the remainder. That failed. Now the best it can likely hope for is some sort of negotiated deal as per above. That does not mean that the complete opposite of Russia's February goal—Russia forced out of all of eastern Ukraine, and even Crimea—is the likely outcome for Ukraine, either.
Russias goals have likely, and continue to change, but it's clear that they want at least some of Ukraine.
> I repeat: Musk is a citizen of a country which is not actually a combatant in the war. The US has not declared war on Russia, there are no American troops fighting within Ukraine's borders, and the US embassy in Moscow remains open (and vice versa). Insta-denouncing any remark that isn't "Anything short of 100% victory for Ukraine = Putler wins!!!111!!1!!!" as wrongthink is just fatuous.
Anything short of a Ukrainian victory really just shows Russia they can send in their troops and meet at least some of their goals by concessions. This is detrimental to the entire world, which would be best off is Russia losses decisively and gets nothing of what it wants.
Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities
#128One thing that people miss is the fact that in the event of any type of a "big" war between superpowers satellites are going to be heavily affected and probably one of the first targets. Having something like this, having that kind of speed in deploying new satellites is going to be a superpower to the USA.
Any "big" war between superpowers is going to be over in a day because it's sheer utter hubris to imagine surviving with any quality of life afterwards. Sure the the elites will have their billion dollar bunkers but the modern life is over otherwise. Pandemic was a model of 1% of what fallout would be like. It seems warmongers have found an end-run around that though, proxy wars like Ukraine which is horrifying.
What counts as big, and what counts as a superpower?
By any reasonable measure, Russia is losing in Ukraine, and the USA lost in Vietnam. Really awful for both victim nations, but despite various hawks in both aggressors calling for the use of nukes, that didn't happen.
At this point, Russia appears to be cannibalizing their nuclear arsenal into conventional weapons, so I don't think they're a threat. That leaves China and NATO (as a bloc, three nuclear powers), because although I don't know how big Indian and Pakistani militaries are, that isn't going to spread, and North Korea is small enough that if it was dumb enough to strike at the USA I doubt it would manage to be worse than Covid (and similarly with Israel and it's neighbours, but I don't have enough appreciation for their geopolitics to call them dumb even preemptively about a hypothetical like this).
Re: Starshield: Secured satellite network for government entities
#129``` EARTH OBSERVATION Starshield launches satellites with sensing payloads and delivers processed data directly to the user. ``` Never heard of this capability for Starlink before. What kind of sensing payloads can it do? Imaging? Thermal? Since Starlink is low altitude and high density, it would allow almost real-time high-precision surveillance?
Starlink is growing a lot of headroom. "delivers processed data directly" is so skynet A.I. Looks like Amazon's Kuiper [1] constellation has a longer catchup to do.
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#130It sounds like they’re trying to sell two things: 1. Hosted payloads, where DoD entities pay to have something (telescope, Sigint equipment, whatever) strapped on to a starlink satellite with comms all figured out for them. Probably a good deal if your stuff fits on that big flat satellite. SpaceX starlink launches do sway the launch market significantly enough (offering a launch at half othe price or less, beholden…
> They have a lot of money.
They will also pay $10,000 for a toilet seat. If you maintain the same markup the $110 a month sub will be $110,000 for the government