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Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by SpicyLemonZest » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:55 AM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #97

Dig1t wrote: post #16

I'm a moderate, not a Democrat and not a Republican. I think people on the left have a blind spot here, that the more suppression they use, the more division they create, and the more moderates and people on the right grow to resent them. I would have identified as a Democrat on pretty much every issue, but this authoritarian suppression of speech and ideas has just pushed me away from that side completely. At this p…

From a country with five viable parties: this picking sides thing, or even being a “moderate” is just weird and kind of horrifying how normal the populace thinks it is. It’s not normal. People should be FREAKING OUT that their governmental system is in such bad shape. They’re too busy cheering for whichever tribe they’re in. All of politics being one dimensional is one of the biggest lies ever.

I don't think Americans are particularly likely to think politics is one dimensional. Each of our two parties is composed of multiple subgroups whose ideals and interests don't match - they regularly have disputes among each other, and it's less common but far from unheard of for an interest group to migrate between parties. What we call a "party" just mixes in components of what a European-style system would call the "governing majority".

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by imgabe » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:55 AM UTC

dekhn wrote: post #66

It's still kind of odd to think that you can be an in-favor executive at a company, then somebody else can buy your company, fire you, and go back and read all your work emails (many of which would be extremely sensitive) and share it with journalists who then screenshot it and share it with the world on the same platform that employed you! This was always a possibility (and a probability- my friend was a lawyer who…

Nothing you write in a work email is private. Everyone knows this. Never write anything in an email that you wouldn’t want read in court.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by lazide » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:55 AM UTC

scifibestfi wrote: post #109

dekhn wrote: post #66

It's still kind of odd to think that you can be an in-favor executive at a company, then somebody else can buy your company, fire you, and go back and read all your work emails (many of which would be extremely sensitive) and share it with journalists who then screenshot it and share it with the world on the same platform that employed you! This was always a possibility (and a probability- my friend was a lawyer who…

It doesn't matter which side, because isn't the problem that the government is doing an end run around the 1st Amendment? If you don't think so now, you might in 2024. So it's time to care now.

Huh?

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by sgammon » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:55 AM UTC

enormous nothing burger

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by partiallypro » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:55 AM UTC

dekhn wrote: post #66

It's still kind of odd to think that you can be an in-favor executive at a company, then somebody else can buy your company, fire you, and go back and read all your work emails (many of which would be extremely sensitive) and share it with journalists who then screenshot it and share it with the world on the same platform that employed you! This was always a possibility (and a probability- my friend was a lawyer who…

> But there is no clear evidence that they explicitly favored one party

You don't even need this "Twitter Files" thread to know that there is plenty of evidence; I don't really see how you can say with any such confidence that Twitter's policies have been even handed.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by Dig1t » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:55 AM UTC

Much better way to read the full thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1598822959866683394

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by Dem_Boys » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:56 AM UTC

Most concerning thing here is that this proves political parties (including the white house[0]) have a direct line to Twitter[1] to get stuff they dislike removed. One would have to assume that there was also a direct line to other social medial platforms. It's so wild to have the slimy-ness of our American political system be revealed in yet another way. So in America you cannot say negative things about political leaders online?!?!

Since this is true, then where else are political parties trying to get unflattering speech suppressed that we don't even know of yet?

[0] https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598828932395978752

[1] https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by connectsnk » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:56 AM UTC

Edit: Removed. It was incorrect so I deleted

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by eschulz » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:56 AM UTC

Dig1t wrote: post #118

andreyk wrote: post #108

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 Biden team asking Twitter to "handle" tweets they don't like. This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech.

I agree, and to me this seems to be describing something very inappropriate. I of course would like more info on this subject.

Re: The Twitter Files

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Post by anoonmoose » Sat, Dec 03, 2022, 1:56 AM UTC

Dig1t wrote: post #118

andreyk wrote: post #108

It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 Biden team asking Twitter to "handle" tweets they don't like. This rubs me the wrong way, nobody in government should be telling Twitter to remove speech.

1- Biden wasn't in government, he was running for office. Private citizen at the time.

2- They weren't telling, they were asking, and if Twitter feels like they were told, they can sue the government for violating their First Amendment rights.