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Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by overgryphon »

venturebros wrote: post #113

Hmm I have just started working with RoR. Would jump at this but the DC part is turning me away. I know you guys said you had an office in Seattle any chance of a similar program there? Edit: And I also would like to add that I wish there were more programs like this. So many companies want to hire elite,rockstar,jedi,ninja,etc programmers and not willing to give people like me with no CS background a chance. I can't…

No offense intended, but why should entry level software development jobs be available to people without a CS skill set? Many people spend four years studying CS specifically to earn an entry level job in software development. Shouldn't those without a CS background spend time developing a comparable amount of skills before expecting a software development job? Why should candidates without a CS degree be held to a lower standard? Why would such a candidate deserve the same opportunities as someone who did devote a significant time to learning CS?

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by [deleted] »

overgryphon wrote: post #121
venturebros wrote: post #113

Hmm I have just started working with RoR. Would jump at this but the DC part is turning me away. I know you guys said you had an office in Seattle any chance of a similar program there? Edit: And I also would like to add that I wish there were more programs like this. So many companies want to hire elite,rockstar,jedi,ninja,etc programmers and not willing to give people like me with no CS background a chance. I can't…

No offense intended, but why should entry level software development jobs be available to people without a CS skill set? Many people spend four years studying CS specifically to earn an entry level job in software development. Shouldn't those without a CS background spend time developing a comparable amount of skills before expecting a software development job? Why should candidates without a CS degree be held to a l…

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Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by smountcastle »

j3 wrote: post #20
oinksoft wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

18-month commitment required

That's pretty short, no? Get an unparalleled education in modern software development, step into a high-paying job, and we ask you to stay just 18 months?

Is the contract published somewhere? What if something unexpected comes up, say their spouse develops cancer and they need to move to another state to get the best treatment possible? Probably a poor example as Living Social would let that person work remotely, but still, it's a contract -- what are the consequences of breaking it? For similar offers, the 'apprentice' simply needs to repay some or all of the cost of the education.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by doktrin »

pitdesi wrote: post #23

This is pretty smart recruiting by livingsocial, certainly one way to bridge the talent shortfall, but i wonder what happens if someone wants to leave? Will be interesting to see how it all plays out Another similar program but without the lock-in is Code Academy ( http://codeacademy.org ) in Chicago. It is different than hungry academy in that you pay up front ($6k) but my understanding is that most of their student…

In addition to Code Academy, there's Dev Bootcamp in SV, whose first session is starting this spring. While it's not directly associated with a particular company, the organizers do promise recruiting opportunities upon completion.

Count me among those who are trying to break into the industry without the proper educational background. It's been a fun, yet often frustrating experience (full time job, lack of time, etc.).

I was actually just speaking to a family member and bemoaning the lack of such programs in the DC area. Very glad to see this opportunity arise, and I certainly have my fingers crossed.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by overgryphon »

[deleted] wrote: post #122
overgryphon wrote: post #121

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No offense intended, but why should entry level software development jobs be available to people without a CS skill set? Many people spend four years studying CS specifically to earn an entry level job in software development. Shouldn't those without a CS background spend time developing a comparable amount of skills before expecting a software development job? Why should candidates without a CS degree be held to a l…

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Sure, it is possible to find a school to give you a CS degree without learning any useful skills. But most people who get a CS degree are required to write quite a bit of code to earn it, take classes in data structures, algorithms, math, and operating systems. While degree programs may be more theoretical than just learn to write code, a solid background in theory can be very useful.

Why should someone expect a software development job if they have not spent a significant amount of time studying software development? I don't care if they self-study instead of going to school, but it is reasonable to expect a certain skill set before someone is hired to write software.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by viandante »

nassosdim wrote: post #118
j3 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes! We can work on the visas for exceptional candidates.

After contacting with the HR in the email that you gave me they told me that they don't offer visas for this program. :(

Same here. Too bad.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by nassosdim »

javadi82 wrote: post #104
maccylo wrote: post #34

:( Darn. Too bad I'm not american. Nevertheless, good effort! Let us know how it works out.

Looks like the applicants can be non-american. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3377589

Unfortunately, they can't http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3378760

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by venturebros »

overgryphon wrote: post #121
venturebros wrote: post #113

Hmm I have just started working with RoR. Would jump at this but the DC part is turning me away. I know you guys said you had an office in Seattle any chance of a similar program there? Edit: And I also would like to add that I wish there were more programs like this. So many companies want to hire elite,rockstar,jedi,ninja,etc programmers and not willing to give people like me with no CS background a chance. I can't…

No offense intended, but why should entry level software development jobs be available to people without a CS skill set? Many people spend four years studying CS specifically to earn an entry level job in software development. Shouldn't those without a CS background spend time developing a comparable amount of skills before expecting a software development job? Why should candidates without a CS degree be held to a l…

Never said I was looking to be a software developer. I'm a Front-end web developer. It's tough to get my foot into the door outside of the interactive agency realm because most companies require 2+ years experience and some form of testing just for a junior position.

Re: Hungry Academy - get paid to learn Ruby

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Post by j3 »

viandante wrote: post #126
nassosdim wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After contacting with the HR in the email that you gave me they told me that they don't offer visas for this program. :(

Same here. Too bad.

I'm sorry, I was mixed up about this. It's still possible for future iterations of the program, but for this one they've decided "no."
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