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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by mjmsmith »

HebericNewt wrote: post #103
rgbrenner wrote: post #55

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What’s the big deal? Isn’t this person free to choose where they spend their time? If they dont like Twitter they can leave. Isn’t that what freedom is all about? Seems to me that many on the right don’t actually care about freedom… but more about their ability to subject others to their ideas… apparently freedom is the right of republicans to force themselves on others and restrain their critics from leaving. What o…

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Interesting. How long did you consider yourself a libertarian, and what year did you decide that you were a fascist?

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by allthecybers »

throw0101c wrote: post #90
allthecybers wrote: post #64

I just don't understand the need to announce your decision to stop using a particular social media platform. It's a free web service. You can use it or not. I guess I should have made an announcement when I switched away from Gmail. "Hello everyone, I have decided to leave Gmail. I'll keep my account active, and still receive email there but I'm definitely leaving. I can't support Google which is a poster child of su…

> I just don't understand the need to announce […] It's a statement of principles. To bring attention to, and shine light on, what (he thinks) is a problem. Just like he did went he quit a lucrative job as VP of AWS when Amazon mistreated employees: * https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2020/04/29/Leaving-A...

Point taken. I agree Tim has history of doing the principled thing.

I’ve just seen so many of these “leaving Twitter” posts lately and it’s interesting that Twitter seems to be a really sticky product for people.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by 1attice »

phpisthebest wrote: post #57
1attice wrote: post #30

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The man literally promoted the idea that Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked because he visits gay bars, or something. How is that not alt-right? Yet, I fear you may be correct about that 85% statistic, nevertheless.

Well I agree he needs to take some time to vett news sources as his (correct) position that more traditional news (like CNN, AP, etc) can not be trusted before tweeting out links, which he deleted shortly there after, I do not call that "promoted" but today words have no meaning so sure. This is the think impossible standard to have, and one of the reason many people like Elon is the fact he has no filter, and gives…

I keep thinking about how I disagreed with this comment before I even finished reading the username, 'phpisthebest'.

I've been thinking for hours about red-state vs blue-state coding and platform tastes. I bet that in the future, the platform wars and the culture wars will merge, and there will be a stack that is more likely to be used by a startup in (say) Florida, vs a stack that screams left-coast. Like how much do you want to bet that the new Twitter walks back from Scala, embracing straight-up Java? ...And all you have to do is go to a Rust meetup to see how that language has strong roots in specific communities, but not in others. (Specifically, I can report that it's the language of choice for me and my LGBTQ friends)

Imagine a future where there are several competing ideologically- (or even theologically-) fused stacks, promoted by companies that sotto-voce act as intellectual caretakers of the political ideology in question, funding friendly politicians and even nation-states, connected directly to banks and payment modalities, structuring towering billions in investment, all of it carefully calibrated to promote not just an API, or a language, but a whole worldview.

I mean, having typed that, it basically just sounds like the present moment, but as described by some prescient eighties cyberpunk novel.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by boardwaalk »

taolegal wrote: post #107
tapoxi wrote: post #42

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Musk argued that Nancy Pelosi's husband was beaten by a gay lover to downplay the fact that a crazy far-right nutjob broke into their home and beat an elderly man with a hammer while demanding to see the Speaker of the House. That's pretty disgusting.

Tons of people on the left cheered on rand paul's neighbor when paul was violently attacked and seriously injured.

Please don’t do whataboutism. Your comment divides and derails the conversation and assumes the worst of the people here who might have a problem with Elon’s behavior (that they also want people to get assaulted because of their political views).

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by Markoff »

sheeshkebab wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s holidays but I noticed my twitter feed getting filled up lately with various far right types posting crap. I guess these idiots were always there but somehow they were drawn out by saner content that I care about, not anymore it seems. I’ll probably delete twitter too if that’s the way it will continue on after another a couple of weeks.

I welcome this for change from far left woke crap dominating whole platform for years with any opposition against them silenced.

In free platform you read crap from all sides, not just the one you like.

But enjoy your new echo chamber outside Twitter.

edit: for downvoters, yes, I'm aware this describes also majority of HN users and you just can't stand different opinion and try to silence it, thanks for proving me right

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by Markoff »

dorkwood wrote: post #76
davidmurdoch wrote: post #23

The way people carefully curate their own little filter bubbles on purpose is insane to me. As an adult, why would you never want to be exposed to viewpoints that differ from your own? That's not healthy. Edit: I'm mostly referring to those that also regularly publish their opinions assuming for others to read them.

I suppose it depends on what your end goal is. For example, I've disabled news notifications on my phone. I used to get pinged multiple times per day to be told that either someone had died in an accident, or was raped and murdered, or some other such thing. One might argue that I'm sticking my head in the sand and 'living in a bubble' by turning these off. But while I think it's beneficial to expose myself to ideas…

I've never understood people keeping enabled notifications which are not directly for them (like for email/IM/SMS messages and own calendar reminders).

Must be people with a lot of spare time with nothing to do or someone who doesn't know how to disable notifications (I was just yesterday configuring mother's phone disabling notifications after she asked me to disable her lock screen completely since she doesn't use any PIN anyway, she stand no chance with this option buried in hidden Developer options). It's odd to see someone who is neither of these groups keeping them enabled, honestly Notifications should be permission each app should explicitly ask with reason why it needs them during launch and they should be disabled by default.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by ncallaway »

funstuff007 wrote: post #82

> whose proprietor is an alt-right troll I like tbray, and I don't like Elon, but that is not a fair characterization. It's right this post has been flagged.

Is it the troll part, or the alt-right part that you disagree with? He certainly seems like a troll to me.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by suzzer99 »

bArray wrote: post #99
suzzer99 wrote: post #22

A very vocal subset of Elon's followers went from "free speech absolutists" to organized mass reporting their enemies in a matter of days. That has to be some kind of record. Their enemies list: https://twitter.com/elmforkJBGC/status/1596041824573198336 Python script to mass report: https://twitter.com/WhiteRoseAFA/status/1596236817858056192

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Please explain how journalist Ben Collins, who they've been mass-targeting, is part of Antifa. There's a huge list of people that have been mass-reported who have nothing to do with Antifa. Anyone who crosses alt-right propagandist Andy Ngo has been subject to mass-reporting.

These people aren't operating in good faith.

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