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> After setting up a Gmail account in the mid-aughts, Mark, who is in his 40s, came to rely heavily on Google. He synced appointments with his wife on Google Calendar. His Android smartphone camera backed up his photos and videos to the Google cloud. He even had a phone plan with Google Fi. His first mistake. He (and a whole bunch of others) forgot the principle of least privilege. The moment you start letting a comp…
Stratechery covered this … they pointed out the really f*ed: part: Google is refusing to reinstate the account. Protecting children is important. AI is imperfect. But there is no reason the keep the account suspended once it’s clear there was no wrongdoing. This man is innocent of doing anything wrong. Google had suspended him, and removed access to all his online account data. And refuses to reinstate. We balance ou…
>Protecting children is important. AI is imperfect. is protecting children more important than a software engineer with no backup's mistakes and first world inconveniences? yes. the AI did its job flawlessly - detected a naked toddler. as did the human verifier. bravo. should it have been detected and flagged? yes. should we be surprised at the chosen free cloud provider's attitude or dismissal? no.
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This isn't about a free GMail account... From the article there appears to be an arbitration path (based on the dollar amount quoted in the article, but they talk about it like it would be a lawsuit) - but Dad explicitly chose not to take it for some reason. It would be very surprising if the ToS for Google Accounts didn't include an arbitration agreement. Also, Dad had a paid Google One account - filled with apparen…
Why do you continue to insinuate this man may be a pedophile when he has been completely exonerated?
This story broke the camels back for us when it first appeared here and got us to migrate our email to protonmail and a domain we bought.
It's been three months, and AFAIK, Google still hasn't given him his account back yet.
Forget that - Google states to the media they had reviewed the situation and had decided to uphold his ban. Good luck convincing them to admit their “appeal” system, and their media review, were mistakes. Google is too arrogant for that.
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This is the part that should receive a Congressional inquiry. I would love to see Congress drag Sundar Pichai (and no one else) before them and scream “What the hell is wrong with you?” in his face. We have courts for a reason. They found no wrongdoing. Google is objectively deciding they know better than an elected court on what happened. This whole situation is absurd and evil.
> Sundar Pichai (and no one else) I'd go a little broader than that. I'd also want to see them drag in whoever made the decision to not reinstate the account, plus everyone who knew what happened and could have overridden the decision but chose not to do so.
that will never happen, unless documents & emails get discovered and all the cc'ed people get subpoena'ed and deposed. And even that won't catch everybody. Congressional committees don't have time for that.
Big corporations are adept at diffusing real responsibility among a faceless mass of people.
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How does this work with Android mobile devices that are linked to that account? From a non-technologist perspective, is a linked Android device becomes neutered?
You can use android phones without a Google account right
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How does this work with Android mobile devices that are linked to that account? From a non-technologist perspective, is a linked Android device becomes neutered?
You can use android phones without a Google account right
Apps, games, movies, books, youtube paid things, etc.
Does getting your google account blocked prevent you from using GCP? There are so many stories of people losing access to google accounts that it seems way too risky to use GCP when this sort of thing can happen.
I don't know why people use gcp, I would like to hear some opinions. The way I see it, if you don't mind price, you go with AWS (most polished). If you mind price gcp isn't really much cheaper, so you go with something actually cheap like OCI.
Stratechery covered this … they pointed out the really f*ed: part: Google is refusing to reinstate the account. Protecting children is important. AI is imperfect. But there is no reason the keep the account suspended once it’s clear there was no wrongdoing. This man is innocent of doing anything wrong. Google had suspended him, and removed access to all his online account data. And refuses to reinstate. We balance ou…
IIRC there was a follow up which was arguably worse. Google implied that the account was suspended because of real CSAM concerns unrelated to the photos sent to the doctor/police officer (other photos in their account? they wouldn't go into details about their decision) and that the officer closing the case doesn't mean their judgement here is wrong. If that's the case I can understand why they're obstinate about the…
They don't want to get into the business of deciding what is and isn't sexual imagery. Instead, it's easier to just ban people and forget about it.
It's the same type of behaviour and attitude that lead to damoore being fired. No room for ambiguity or nuance at Google. Everything can be decided by an algorithm.