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Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

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Re: Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

#121
Echo makes for a simple family “phone” for kids before they’re old enough for their own mobile.

I also created a free skill for kids to hear the daily school lunch menu. Such a morning time saver! https://github.com/jeffsheets/alexa-papio-lunch-menu

But yeah it’s still mostly a hardware solution looking for a problem

Re: Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

#122

Without genuine understanding voice is just a terrible method for control. I don't know what the options are or what exactly I'm supposed to say. Alexa is overly verbose too. The control feels very clumsy, though it's sometimes good enough. I am imagining GPT-4 on the other end with a suite of controls. If Alexa could understand what I'm talking about and all of the options available to it I think it would be a much…

As someone else said, Alexa seems to be very “voice command line”. I think Google is similar, no? It can be wordy but it’s easier to parse correctly (and faster).

Siri has always tried to be more conversational (though not by too much). But that’s also probably one of the reasons it hasn’t been as expandable.

Much easier to add skills (in Amazon parlance) when the command can be “tell Foo to bar the baz” instead of trying to intuit which app you want to use based on heuristics or something.

Re: Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

#123

I won’t buy a taking wire tap again until they unlock profanity mode. I seriously want it to say “The next fucking movie time is 10 o’ god damn clock. You want the tickets or not bitch?” That would entertain me so damn much. Instead I get this sterile interaction that is ok-not-great and I can’t get the device to drop even one eff bomb. Lame.

I got Siri to say naughty things by careful instructive naming of my lamps and groups of lights.

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Re: Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

#124

After timers, the #1 use of Alexa in my house: 'make a fart noise'. We've tried to use Alexa for some games, like Jeopardy or Whose Line Is It Anyway, but it always is an incredibly buggy experience. Even just simple multiple choice games should work perfectly, and yet, a lot of the time even basic answers don't register, and the games themselves crash. I've always wondered - stupid mobile games are dominating video…

Have you tried this game?

https://playheyrobot.com/rules

Re: Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

#125
Alexa uses here:

1. Set timer

2. Convert weird US fantasy units to sane ones

3. Play music

4. Control lights

5. Weather

6. No, I don’t fucking care about the notification of some shipment I already got on my phone and my mail.

Alexa devices are cheap. Seriously cheap. That is the main reason I have not replaced them with Rhasspy [0] yet.

[0]: https://rhasspy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Re: Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

#126
post #8

so it's not just the metaverse that is bleeding money

I always viewed Alexa as Amazon's way of enabling future re-investment of profits. The second you show w-street profit, they want it to only ever grow with future dividends. Amazon's entire model is growth over all else. I've wondered if Alphabet's X/Waymo division operates in a similar manner. Giving future Alphabet a way to cut costs when it's growth stalls.

It’s really too bad. There are so many companies (including Apple at this point) that I feel would be much better off if they could just announce they were going blue-chip and stop trying to grow so much every single quarter.

With Apple how long can the worlds biggest (or close, don’t know ATM) company keep growing?

So they’re doing user-hostile stuff like more ads and unnecessary subscriptions.

How many nice SaaS things had a perfect product bad had to pivot to enterprise just to find growth, ruining it in the process?

Re: Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

#127

After timers, the #1 use of Alexa in my house: 'make a fart noise'. We've tried to use Alexa for some games, like Jeopardy or Whose Line Is It Anyway, but it always is an incredibly buggy experience. Even just simple multiple choice games should work perfectly, and yet, a lot of the time even basic answers don't register, and the games themselves crash. I've always wondered - stupid mobile games are dominating video…

All we do is ask it what the weather is going to be today, tonight, tomorrow

Re: Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

#129
We use Echo/Alexa to play music, games, set timers/reminders, query for information. We get annoyed with up-selling and ads when issuing commands. The proliferation of fake reviews/products on Amazon has eroded any confidence in ordering anything via a voice command. It is a lazy, shallow and ineffective path to potential revenue. It lacks vision and creativity. There are missed opportunities in creating more sophisticated multi-command workflows. Ones that do not involve peddling what Amazon is already selling.

What problems should a sophisticated home assistant solve? It should curate and offer SOLICITED services; find me washer dryer, fridge, plumber, landscaper, house/pet sitter, house cleaner, mechanic... It should present these to me visually to choose from. It should remember and be ready to automate any subsequent request for the same service. This could be done via integrating with reputable third-party providers like Angie's list, thumbtack, google flights, aggregators... Alternatively, Amazon should build reputable service provider network itself. People need goods and services. Provide a path to solicit, opt-in to targeted curated offerings/ads. As important, provide the ability to opt-out when no longer necessary. Unsolicited ads are often inaccurate, invasive and damaging noise. Earned reputation and trust is gold.

Re: Amazon Alexa is on pace to lose $10B this year

#130
I feel Alexa and voice enabled devices were innovative products, keeping aside the privacy and other concerns. 30 years ago, if someone had told us we would have a voice enabled assistant in home that can control music, lights, door etc., they would be called bonkers. So it was a technological marvel. But the world does not run on technical coolness, it had to earn money. I have no opinion on the monetization part.
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