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Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by stavros »

causi wrote: post #84
vidarh wrote: post #82

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Then they could at least provide more than one option. Though while far from perfect, one of the things I like about Alexa/Echo more than the ability to change it, is that with multiple devices you will generally only trigger one (the others within earshot will listen and then ignore it once one of them has picked it up; works well in my house at least apart from one place where echo/reflection sometimes causes one i…

Yep. Echoes also don't make you pause after the wake word, so you can actually talk to it naturally. Also, when you tell them to shut up they shut up . The way Google Homes throw a tantrum when you're rude to them will make you want to reach through the cable line and strangle the arrogant son of a bitch who OK'd something that pointlessly infuriating.

Seriously, what the hell were they thinking? If I'm so frustrated at a device that I'll tell it to shut up, the last thing I want from it is more noise.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by Al-Khwarizmi »

causi wrote: post #47
boxed wrote: post #38

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Written like that Google suddenly looks like geniuses.

At least in the naming, sure. Everything else, not so much. I had to switch my whole house over to Echos because you can't change the wake word on Google Home. Every time I said, say, "Hey Google, turn the bedroom lamp off", the Home in the bedroom would say ok and turn the lamp off, both phones in the room would activate and complain that they didn't have a device named lamp listed, and every other Home in the house…

I have no idea how things work under the hood, but this doesn't match my experience as a user. If I'm in the bedroom and ask to turn the lamp off, and phones are around, the phone screens sometimes lit up as they are listening to the command, but then only the bedroom Google Home actually executes it, while the phones turn their screen back off without saying anything.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by bobsmooth »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #80
bobsmooth wrote: post #73

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You can't change the wake word because a separate, dedicated chip is listening for it and is not connected to the rest of the device except to wake up the main processor.

Not "because". Dedicated wakeup chips can be designed to have a different matrix shoved in for the word they're detecting. Google presumably did not do this, but they could have.

Adding more communication between the main chip and the wake-up chip would leave more room for privacy intrusion.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by causi »

withinboredom wrote: post #109
causi wrote: post #81

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Considering how warm Google Homes stay even when idle I seriously doubt the main processor is ever going to sleep.

Heat is dissipated when electricity goes unused too (usually by dumping it in some load resistor) so it’s possible the extra electricity is just generating heat, waiting to go to the processor. I’d lol if they have 5v coming in, and they’re stepping it down to 3.3v for the wake word processor (hence heat) while the main processor runs at 5v.

Switch mode power supplies don't waste that degree of energy when doing nothing. That's multiple watts, probably at least 5 judging by the temperature, just being pissed away at all times.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by causi »

myself248 wrote: post #63
causi wrote: post #47

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At least in the naming, sure. Everything else, not so much. I had to switch my whole house over to Echos because you can't change the wake word on Google Home. Every time I said, say, "Hey Google, turn the bedroom lamp off", the Home in the bedroom would say ok and turn the lamp off, both phones in the room would activate and complain that they didn't have a device named lamp listed, and every other Home in the house…

Were these devices given to you, or did you buy them?

A mix of both for the Google Home devices. The Echo dots I got on a black friday for like ten bucks a piece.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by bobsmooth »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #116
bobsmooth wrote: post #73

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You can't change the wake word because a separate, dedicated chip is listening for it and is not connected to the rest of the device except to wake up the main processor.

Uhm why is that chip not programmable for any ofher catch phrase?

That would require more communication between the main chip and wake-up chip which could lead to privacy concerns.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by YurgenJurgensen »

withinboredom wrote: post #110
thayne wrote: post #50

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Well, the verbification of the word google introduces its own difficulties there. The ideal would be for the voice assistant to have some completely unique word, ideally with sound combinations that are very rare in your native language. And if for some reason, that still doesn't work for you, have a way to change it. Or maybe just not have a default, and require users to pick their own keyword.

In English, there’s only one word in the entire language with a ts sound (pizza) that’s not at the end. They probably could have come up with a name utilizing that fact, making wake words super “easy” to recognize and hard to accidentally say.

Just off the top of my head, depending on accent or dialect: "spritzer", "waltzer", "Mitsubishi", "matzos", "mitzvah".

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by dTal »

withinboredom wrote: post #109
causi wrote: post #81

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Considering how warm Google Homes stay even when idle I seriously doubt the main processor is ever going to sleep.

Heat is dissipated when electricity goes unused too (usually by dumping it in some load resistor) so it’s possible the extra electricity is just generating heat, waiting to go to the processor. I’d lol if they have 5v coming in, and they’re stepping it down to 3.3v for the wake word processor (hence heat) while the main processor runs at 5v.

>Heat is dissipated when electricity goes unused too (usually by dumping it in some load resistor)

This isn't true. Your light switches do not heat up to lightbulb temperature when the light is off. Heat is only dissipated when electricity is "used", more or less by definition. You seem to be describing a linear voltage regulator, which does have a load resistor and is wasteful if the step-down distance is large, but no modern electronic circuit would use such a thing in a power supply - it would use a switched-mode buck regulator instead.

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by shapefrog »

fold3 wrote: post #24
slg wrote: post #7

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I feel bad for all the Alexas and the few Siris out there that have had their names hijacked my a couple of the biggest companies on the planet.

A child named Alexa had to change their name because of the bullying. https://news.yahoo.com/parents-forced-change-name-6-18055441...

Children are such pieces of shit (sometimes)

Re: Username cannot contain 'clyde'

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Post by RobotToaster »

boxed wrote: post #38
Thorrez wrote: post #35

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Amazon: Alexa Microsoft: Cortana Apple: Siri Discord: Clyde Google: Google Disclosure, I work at Google.

Written like that Google suddenly looks like geniuses.

Until you want to ask google about googols
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