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Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by wskish »

ctvo wrote: post #100
wskish wrote: post #39

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They are going "hardcore" with EM at a critical time. You could be looking at the "twitter mafia" of 2030 something.

The PayPal mafia had equity / ownership that paid off when they sold the company. Those people in the photo are employees with essentially 0 upside in terms of real ownership. For there to be a “Twitter mafia” Elon would need to, out of the kindness of his heart, give them real ownership in Twitter. And then Twitter needs to be a success, much more than it already was. I’d play the lottery instead and leave fantasy l…

i guess we all have to judge the value of such human connections

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Post by big_red »

raydev wrote: post #114
big_red wrote: post #95

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He’s only the most successful entrepreneur alive. But sure visa holders need their beauty sleep. Seriously you can’t stay up to 1am to have the company of the worlds richest person? What an opportunity to learn. This thread is totally nuts

> What an opportunity to learn I suspect you've never been around Musk or people of Musk's class. What could you possibly learn that would materially improve anything in your life other than "you get to keep your job (for now)"? Or is it just curiosity you want to satisfy?

His habits. You can’t regularly work 80 hour weeks without packing a few tricks. You can’t build multiple billion dollar companies without knowing something others don’t. Often I find when talking to successful people, they’ll make a revealing offhand comment that’s pure gold and can in fact change your life - if you’re paying attention.

An example might be Einstein and Steve Jobs having a full wardrobe of duplicates of the same outfit. Ok, but why? Because they realize the mind is only capable of resolving a finite number of dilemmas per day and choosing what to wear depletes that resource. An eccentric habit, but revealing indeed. After being sold on the theory, they went all in. I wonder to what degree they executed on insights like that where the rest of us just brushed them off

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Post by berkut »

tomlockwood wrote: post #103
berkut wrote: post #94

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What diagram / whiteboard are people talking about? Is there more than one photo? The only whiteboard I see is on the right hand side at the back, mostly obscured by people, and I certainly can't make out what's on it.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593899029531803649/phot...

Aha - thanks!

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by paul7986 »

I see it says there's a lot of H1 work are still there…

Musk has said Americans are lazy compared to those not in the US… Maybe that picture shows it… Work balance over changing the world type of work or your stuck cause no job your out of the country. Maybe it's a mix of both

Maybe musk could force more truth on the Internet, somehow through the blue checkmark and verification of each user… Create a reputation system, or may be crazy if you're going to spread lies how much of your own money you gonna back up that silly political lie with (so much drama in politics it driven by emotions more then logic).

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Post by Volundr »

_yb2s wrote: post #118
mike503 wrote: post #18

As the comment says, it would be interesting to interact with the richest person on earth. Short of that, I have no idea why anyone would think it's fun or anything to be in that atmosphere. He could change direction on a whim and make you redundant in a second.

If you want to know why the people look like they’re having a fun time, watch The Death of Stalin

To be honest, they don't look like they are having fun to me. Most of the people I can see in that photo read as exhausted to me (which makes sense, 1 am and all). Even the group photo Elon tweeted looks pretty forced to my eyes.

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Post by phendrenad2 »

bern4444 wrote: post #36

Lots of comments on how hackathons and late night sessions were fond memories for people. The difference is those events were chosen. If you are forced to remain at your company (due to visa issues for example) being forced by your CEO to stay at work until 1am is atrocious. This is not a profession where being at the office this late is the norm and it's not typical for the environment. Twitter is not a startup in a…

I've never seen an optional hackathon that didn't come with serious "contribute or else" vibes.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by [deleted] »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #111
toomuchtodo wrote: post #7

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Per US. Citizenship and Immigration Services, around 300 employees at Twitter are working under the H-1B visa. My note: I am aware of someone at Meta attempting to reach out to these folks to interview for offers to transfer their visas. Very kind of folks willing to do so. Source: https://www.uscis.gov/tools/reports-and-studies/h-1b-employe...

> I am aware of someone at Meta attempting to reach out to these folks to interview for offers to transfer their visas. Very kind of folks willing to do so. Meta is firing 11K people and freezing hiring right now. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/09/meta-to-lay-off-more-than-11... Twitter will bounce back. For the people who are staying, this is a giant career opportunity to get a good executive job as the result. I'd st…

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Post by kcplate »

Imnimo wrote: post #108
kcplate wrote: post #31

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I have a family and a life outside of work, and I can’t count how many all nighters I have pulled in 35+ years of my career. Sometimes you need to do them. Of course I was raised in a generation that believed it was in our best interest that our company’s were successful…

It's interesting that you naturally attribute this belief to upbringing rather than an actual justification.

Yes, I attribute my belief that it’s important for the company helping me via my compensation to feed, cloth, and shelter my family to be successful to my upbringing. I mean I don’t recall my parents ever saying “When you start working, do as little as possible because screw them they dont deserve your best effort.”

Are you implying that contributing to your company’s success isn’t important? I mean I have helped multiple companies to be successful and by many measures this has provided me success as well. I am pretty sure there is a correlation there.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by kcplate »

x128 wrote: post #48
kcplate wrote: post #32

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Or…it’s separating the wheat from the chaff

and what do I gain by giving my soul to the company?

Maybe a lot of you are willing to take a chance with some risk and some effort. Maybe you get nothing.

I know some really wealthy people who are only wealthy because they took a little risk. I know some people who could be wealthy too if they took the same leap, but didn’t and they aren’t. Perhaps they felt like you do…. It all comes down to choices. These people sticking at Twitter are making their choice. Others left, that was their choice. I’m not going to criticize either choice.

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Post by divbzero »

wskish wrote: post #57
tomlockwood wrote: post #2

Looking at that diagram, and thinking the person who needed it just bought the company for 44 billion dollars, is bewildering.

I see that whiteboard as a mechanism to help build a shared mental model for all assembled. Everyone there has seen some previous unknown revision of architectural diagrams, and has their own partial model of the system. Due to the urgency at hand, they all need to have a crisp shared model of the important parts, down to the naming of things.

What puzzles me is that Twitter’s greatest challenges in recent years have not been technical. There shouldn’t be a technical emergency that requires an urgent call for all software engineers.
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