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Why Meta’s latest large language model survived only three days online

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Re: Why Meta’s latest large language model survived only three days online

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Post by remram »

halpmeh wrote: post #115
remram wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that we don't have a better solution now is why it's worth researching. We only have modern cars because we didn't consider transportation "solved" when we had horse-pulled carriages. Many people are looking for better solutions right now, because we believe they certainly exist.

Isn’t that true of everything? There may always be something better in the future. It’s ridiculous to say that we can’t have solutions to anything in the present because there may be better options in the future.

No, that is not true of solved problems and solved games in the mathematical sense, which is what we're talking about. E.g. tic-tac-toe is a solved game, no better solution can be devised.

Re: Why Meta’s latest large language model survived only three days online

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Post by halpmeh »

remram wrote: post #121
halpmeh wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t that true of everything? There may always be something better in the future. It’s ridiculous to say that we can’t have solutions to anything in the present because there may be better options in the future.

No, that is not true of solved problems and solved games in the mathematical sense, which is what we're talking about. E.g. tic-tac-toe is a solved game, no better solution can be devised.

Ok, then please prove that cars are not the solution to transportation. Obviously, you can't, because transportation is not a game with well-defined rules. Detecting the truth is also not a game with well-defined rules. So obviously we're using a different definition of "solved" than the one used in game theory. QED

Re: Why Meta’s latest large language model survived only three days online

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Post by remram »

halpmeh wrote: post #122
remram wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that is not true of solved problems and solved games in the mathematical sense, which is what we're talking about. E.g. tic-tac-toe is a solved game, no better solution can be devised.

Ok, then please prove that cars are not the solution to transportation. Obviously, you can't, because transportation is not a game with well-defined rules. Detecting the truth is also not a game with well-defined rules. So obviously we're using a different definition of "solved" than the one used in game theory. QED

I can prove that current day cars aren't by opening any car manufacturer's website and seeing the future models...

As to your discussion of well-defined rules, I fail to see the argument you are trying to make. As a reminder we were talking about the game of Go. Does it not have well-defined rules?

Re: Why Meta’s latest large language model survived only three days online

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Post by gunapologist99 »

dmix wrote: post #86
gunapologist99 wrote: post #28

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Exactly. Also why identifying "misinformation" is a fool's errand, since yesterday's misinformation is today's truth.

> Also why identifying "misinformation" is a fool's errand Seems easy enough: as long as the content is inoffensive and fits into the Overton Window then it's not misinformation.

Now if we could only identify some content that isn't offensive to someone..

Re: Why Meta’s latest large language model survived only three days online

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Post by fastball »

jkeddo wrote: post #125

AFAIK Meta never claimed that this tool was perfect or infallible. Critics are ripping it apart for something its creators didn't say it would do. Meta made a great tool, I hope they put it back up.

Yep, this is the AI Ethics crowd inventing another straw man they can tear down.
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