MongoDB is web-scale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdnDXsqiPYo
Classic. Reminds me of this:
But, aren't you folks web2?
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Re: But, aren't you folks web2?
#122We live in a cyberpunk dystopia without cool gadgets. Corporations have hijacked most of the institutions and are selling populations of people as 'userbases' to each other in order to harvest for data and attention. Web3 is a line of flight.
Re: But, aren't you folks web2?
#123While the current state of affairs is mostly swindlers, ponzi schemes, and problemless solutions, I do believe that distributed ledger technology can and will fundamentally change many things in society that have been working “fine” for thousands of years.
“Fine” in this context meaning with extreme inefficiencies and the use of coercive force and institutional violence.
Distributed ledgers can replace institutional violence and coercion with algorithmic finality. We just aren’t ready yet, and if there is anything that people don’t like to do it is to give up their power to inflict violence on others.
Evolutionary monetary policy can potentially create deeply democratic societies while discarding much of the overhead normally associated with political office, enforcement, revenue collection, and more.
Unfortunate, that’s not really visible in the crypto sphere right now, because the projects working on this are not spending millions on PR trying to get rich.
Re: But, aren't you folks web2?
#124For the first time my anger over crypto moves into genuine concern. Is an entire generation of young people experiencing a kind of "pokemonisation" of crypto well into early adulthood? In other words, is a generation of 20-somethings wasting the better part of that decade on this tech, in these scams? If so, this feels new (?). We're not talking about the chain-letter crazes of the 20s/30s, the housewife pyramid sche…
> For the first time my anger over crypto moves into genuine concern. Is an entire generation of young people experiencing a kind of "pokemonisation" of crypto well into early adulthood? In other words, is a generation of 20-somethings wasting the better part of that decade on this tech, in these scams?
I'm a middle aged developer who spent pandemic time in "web3" (ugh) dev discords and stuff.
There are scammers, sure, but mostly there are a lot of young people who are learning tech in an environment that feels fun and rebellious and honestly a little like the old internet in a way. There is a lot more happening than just people building magic ponzi boxes. It's hard to feel anything but positive about seeing people excited about learning JS or OCaml or Python or Processing.
That said, truly don't understand "web3" and this obsession with things being on a blockchain. It feels like people don't know their Internet history and also I don't understand why DWeb/indie web and web3/blockchain people are fighting since I think they'd be stronger together.
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#125I think the OP is missing what those kids actually desire when they say web3 - self sovereignty. They grew up in an era where a few big tech companies control most of their experiences, and you're completely locked into them unable to escape even if you hate the platform because that's where all your friends are. Web3 is where you can have one digital login owned by you that you can use for many services and you can…
> I think the OP is missing what those kids actually desire when they say web3 - self sovereignty. You might be right, but do they actually achieve this? > It's hosting your own website vs having a page on Facebook. I mean, running your own E-Mail or Mastodon instance is self sourvereignty in the way you propose. But I've never heard anyone claiming this to be web3.
They're presumably building a new company so it's about the direction that company is taking, not what already exists.
Is the company trying to lock users into their platform? Or are they building open APIs, allowing users to easily export data, integrating with open technologies (ENS, Arweave, Login with Web3 etc)?
Re: But, aren't you folks web2?
#126I definitely get the whole “web3” is useless argument for a lot of the cases it’s been proposed but like any new technology I think it may find valid use cases somewhere down the line. One of the few uses for which I am interested is “web3” identity - being able to keep ownership of my identity/credentials. Using, for example, a wallet to sign a message proving I own an address, I can build apps that don’t require me…
I like that concept of crypto being used for identity purposes. Sure there have been solutions like that for a long time but the difference here could be a much simpler way for average users to jump in. The technical knowledge needed to generate pgp or ssh keys is much higher than using a web UI to create a crypto wallet. A crypto wallet does sound similar to existing solutions like Open ID Connect but I think the difference here is a crypto wallet is decentralized vs. OAuth based flows typically have trusted secrets between centralized systems. A decentralized way to verify identity/avatar/username could be useful for some industries, possibly avoiding having to build user identity mgmt into a small/indie software project.
I think web3 will hold some promise if/when technical people develop some standards around using it vs. the marketing/finance folks pumping whatever scheme they are attempting.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hang out in spaces for people entering tech, and I see the crypto advocates and grifters creeping in and around these spaces. It's extremely successful. Lately, I'm even seeing crypto grifts specifically aimed at people entering tech from non-traditional backgrounds, weaponising the language and discourse of diversity and empowerment to trick them into not just buying into the grift, but code the grift for them. Fo…
I wouldn't really worry about people with a college degree. At one point or another you remember you classes on distributed systems and you realize the entire space is bullshit. I agree we'll see bootcamp grads and other people from non-traditional backgrounds get burned but it also gives them opportunities that wouldn't exist otherwise, so I'm not sure it's a net negative overall. The much bigger issue lies within p…
I studied CS and worked at 2 FAANGS before joining Coinbase in 2020 then a blockchain layer 1 a couple of months ago. Coinbase made me multiple 7 figures on IPO day and even with the crypto crash my current job has a cash salary of $350k and ~$200k in tokens.
Yes the tech is not usually innovative or groundbreaking but nothing I worked on in my web2 career or college was cutting edge either.
When looking for a new job this year I got a l6 offer at meta, senior at apple, staff cloudflare and a couple of startup offers. Not only was the base pay significantly less, the tech and companies were boring, most required in office attendance.
So I went with a blockchain company because they were chill, fully distributed, pay was high, and work interesting (we use a lot of cryptography, I have 2 phd’s on my team).
Am I a cryptobro believing this field is the future? No it could all go to zero. Has crypto allowed me to retire and make more money than nearly every colleague in university and FAANGS? Yes.
Re: But, aren't you folks web2?
#128For the first time my anger over crypto moves into genuine concern. Is an entire generation of young people experiencing a kind of "pokemonisation" of crypto well into early adulthood? In other words, is a generation of 20-somethings wasting the better part of that decade on this tech, in these scams? If so, this feels new (?). We're not talking about the chain-letter crazes of the 20s/30s, the housewife pyramid sche…
What the hell is this comment? And top comment on HN, what? If the technology is useful it will be used. If it's not it will die on its own. You can NOT police technical skill. What kind of mentality is this...?
What technology? What use? The piece starts with a relatively straightforward value play being cast as not web3 enough. What even does that mean? And we are not supposed to talk about it, just let it crash around us like a wave?
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#129Isn't it happening all the time? Web3, crypto, AI, kubernetes, microservices, docker, server side rendering, SPA, react, graphql, backend in frontend, DevOps, DevSecOps, fullstack, mongodb, new features in mongodb that mimic sql, Restful, mobile, django/rails, agile, kanban. Some of them make sense, some of them make sense for some of the people, some will be forgotten from history. And those forgotten, will reemerge…
As a Newfoundlander and developer, I think we have enough Newfoundlands already :)
Re: But, aren't you folks web2?
#130I definitely get the whole “web3” is useless argument for a lot of the cases it’s been proposed but like any new technology I think it may find valid use cases somewhere down the line. One of the few uses for which I am interested is “web3” identity - being able to keep ownership of my identity/credentials. Using, for example, a wallet to sign a message proving I own an address, I can build apps that don’t require me…
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