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The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by kibwen »

paulcole wrote: post #113
kibwen wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think I'm at all happy with the advertising here? As I said: advertising is a blight. In the meantime, I'm happy to exploit the false generosity of advertisers to denounce their practices on their own platforms. I'm unclear why you thought this was a counterargument?

You may say you’re unhappy with it, but your actions say you’ve been contributing heavily here for 11 years. You support something that you think is a blight because you don’t think this is a blight. Just like every HN commenter who thinks they hate ads, the truth is they hate the ads they hate and (at best) pretend the other ads aren’t ads. Also I really like ads and am quite stupid so that might explain why I thoug…

> the truth is

You appear to be quite confident in believing that this is the truth. I don't support HN, in fact I frequently denounce it (though I will say that dang is one of the better moderators I've seen). The reason to participate here despite that is because sacrificing power for the sake of principles is a losing strategy, despite what idealists would prefer to believe. You can't affect the world by running off and being a hermit in the woods; you must go to where the people are.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by tedunangst »

irrational wrote: post #116
jaywalk wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless they're on the court, it wouldn't matter. It's not just the color, it's also the position of the players. The graphics are mapped to certain spots on the court, so this only happens if a player wearing the color stands where the graphic is.

What about fans sitting right on the sidelines, or maybe the first few rows?

Why would they project an ad onto an area expected to be obscured?

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by colordrops »

zippergz wrote: post #72
colordrops wrote: post #68

The author must have gotten permission to repeat this even though it was a "private" Convo. This is just a way for the original source to avoid heat while still giving out the information.

He literally says in the article that the person originally asked for it to be private but then agreed to let him repeat it...

Ugh ok, guess it shows that I didn't read it carefully.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by colordrops »

pigbearpig wrote: post #76
colordrops wrote: post #68

The author must have gotten permission to repeat this even though it was a "private" Convo. This is just a way for the original source to avoid heat while still giving out the information.

“ After thinking about it for a bit, Godsey agreed to let me tell that story.” The author got permission

Yep, my bad.

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Post by HWR_14 »

e1ghtSpace wrote: post #12
kibwen wrote: post #7

How soon until we see AI-powered adblockers that filter the output of any signal to remove anything that it perceives as an ad?

How soon will content makers make their content look like ads to force these algorithms to fail?

At some point, they have to disclose they are an ad or the FTC can come after them. That's why Youtubers disclose it, and why Facebook goes through a ton of work to create a human, but not machine, readable "Advertisement" disclaimer.

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Post by owlninja »

B1FF_PSUVM wrote: post #91
quacked wrote: post #38

I hate advertising so much. I would ban it immediately if allowed. It makes society so much worse in every possible measure. http://jacek.zlydach.pl/blog/2019-07-31-ads-as-cancer.html

Modern, post-XVI century, politics were born out of advertising. That's basically the advertiser's line, and they're right. Gutenberg opened a huge can of worms. Day 1 bibles, day 2 pamphlets, and sooner than you know it, there's a whole internet popping cookies all over. No, I don't like it much either, and maybe we should charge advertisers high fees for the privilege of messing with the collective mind, which is i…

The Super Bowl charged about $6M last year for a 30 second commercial.

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Post by Smoosh »

kiawe_fire wrote: post #118
canucker2016 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's even worse when the hockey players' white uniforms confuse the video effect algorithm into thinking the uniforms are part of the board and the algorithm paints the uniform with part of the ad. see https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-fans-are-already-fed-up...

What's crazy to me is that the NBA is banning a specific shade of cream from one team, on the basis that it may interfere with court keying in some locations, when several possible solutions are proposed in the article. But then the NHL is just like "hey, away jerseys are white and the ice is white and the boards are white and we really dgaf".

> and we really dgaf

Or we really only gaf about the money.

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Post by PebblesRox »

maskros wrote: post #18
e1ghtSpace wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How soon will content makers make their content look like ads to force these algorithms to fail?

That's already happened ... just look at how many youtube channels have integrated a "and now let's briefly talk about my sponsors" segment in the middle.

Not to mention all the youtube videos that are just ads. My 11yo wanted to watch some saxophone videos to help him learn to play – next thing I know, he’s watching a saxophone unboxing video with a reviewer gushing over the saxophone he bought from Amazon.

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Post by Andrex »

Firmwarrior wrote: post #105
harry8 wrote: post #54

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mythtv is still pretty great fwiw. Auto flagging ads is pretty good, but even don't bother, just using kodi as a front end with the plugin and skipping forward 3 minutes when an ad comes on does most of the job. (sometimes you do another 30 seconds or 1 minute and you get really good at it). Start watching your program 10-20 minutes late and no ads. Live sport is the only place I see tv ads at all nowadays - hence th…

Hey, do you have a good way to communicate this to normies? I haven't had any luck explaining to my wife that advertisements are basically a sort of cancerous meme designed to deliver misinformation and manipulate you into wasting your money on products that focus more on self-promotion than quality or value. I just sound like a jerk and she somehow takes it as a personal attack

It's already too late for her. Better to focus on educating the next generation, honestly.
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