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Re: Signal Introduces Stories

#122
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making people juggle a different app for SMS is the opposite of being mainstream friendly.

I use signal for SMS. Is this an iOS thing? If so presumably it's an Apple restriction? edit: ah, they announced recently that they are removing SMS support in Android. The reasoning is solid IMO, I've accidentally sent insecure messages before.

They can remove the "accidentally" without removing the ability to access as many messages in one place as possible.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

#124
post #79

I really feel like the best Signal today is Whatsapp. It implements almost the same protocol and is 1) super lean and 2) everyone already has it.

whatsapp claims to be secure… nobody knows.

It's not like that with signal.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

#125
Welcome feature, as hopefully it increases adoption, but seems like Signal is going the wrong direction. Getting feature like stories right and picked up is hard. You need to do a lot of analytics and UX testing. Signal team is not set up for this. This something, that is nice to have and can be iterated on until a sweet spot found, but in the meantime Signal is missing some important features directly related to it core mission: secure communication: 1. support multiple phone numbers 2. support usernames without phone number 3. ios message export 4. Hidden chats(not visible unless a secret combination is entered) – this is really necessary, because oppressive regimes don’t crack your encrypted, they detain and ask you to unlock your phone and show your message history. 5. Call quality between the US callers is pretty good. But in Europe it wasn’t as smooth for me. 6. Offline mode - when Internet isn’t available. Either using local servers or mesh networks. This is a massive change, but it would truly boost Signal resilience.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

#126
I have never understood all the song and dance about stories. I can see how they differ from simple posts in the sense that they can be interactive and last only last some time before disappearing (and even then, it seems the concept was extended by allowing permanent stories), but I just don't see the appeal. It forces me to check another section of the app to stay up to date with things, while I could just check classic posts. There's nothing technically impossible in improving classic posts and adding stories-like features to them, but it seems the main goal is to fully leverage fullscreen media and autoplay in order to retain users as much as possible in the app.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

#127

Personally I'd rather avoid the feature bloat. I also think it just waters-down the "secure" image they are clearly going for. I mean, broadcasting images to your contact list isn't exactly what I think of when I think "private messaging".

> broadcasting images to your contact list isn't exactly what I think of when I think "private messaging". Neither was signal taking your contact list and uploading a copy along with your name and photo and storing that data forever in the cloud. Neither was refusing to update their privacy policy to reflect their new data collection practices. A company that promotes itself to whistleblowers and human rights activis…

> Neither was signal taking your contact list and uploading a copy along with your name and photo and storing that data forever in the cloud.

It seems incomplete to not mention that that data is end‐to‐end encrypted, and that name and photo are optional.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

#128
post #95

My gut reaction to this was disappointment that Signal is working on yet another not-messaging feature a la their crypto integration... But the longer I think about it, the more positive I feel. I actually enjoyed using stories on other social media platforms before I left them. The idea of something similar, but end-to-end encrypted, is actually exciting!

I agree. I feel the same way about signal payments. signal has enough critical mass to start expanding to other areas that could benefit from privacy.

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

#129
post #117

Disregard this comment. This feature, while disappointing to me, is a fine addition to Signal for many people who would like to use the Story format without snooping or ads from Meta. That is a good thing and we should celebrate it. I previously commented something much more negative and snarky. I regret it.

Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Edit out swipes [...] Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

It might be a smidge snarky, but it's literally the only justification Signal provides for adding this feature to their app. Why is it not OK to analyze their reasoning?

Re: Signal Introduces Stories

#130
post #65

Removed SMS support and then added stories. Worried about signal's recent direction. Being able to interact with my remaining non-signal contacts was huge. Really going to miss it. In contrast they are now adding a feature I do not care about at all.

This removed-sms-without-reason is going to be a myth that persists for a while

> RCS is coming, and it doesn’t play well with Signal.... and Signal can’t add RCS support because there’s no RCS API on Android. Honestly, the days of any third-party SMS app are numbered.

https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-blog-removing-sms...

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