If anything would make me want to suicide its listening to other peoples suicide tales. I don't know how they do it.
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even earlier in some states, too. If I were uninsurable, I'd give serious consideration to moving someplace like Seattle.
Move to Seattle and the lack of sunlight will pretty much guarantee that you need antidepressants. Spoken as someone who knows.
They make lamps for that.
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#123I'm thankful someone wrote this. I've been seeing a lot of people talking about how depressed and/or suicidal and inadequate they feel quite frequently around here lately. Hell, even I've done some of that talking as I've been there recently too. The part at the end where he says they will listen is huge. Never underestimate how much someone simply listening can really help. Also, talking to a sympathetic stranger is…
I'm thankful someone wrote this. I've been seeing a lot of people talking about how depressed and/or suicidal and inadequate they feel quite frequently around here lately. Suicide is a topic that people sometimes "take on" in a hamfisted attempt at some cheap feel-goodism, and the results are almost always counter-productive. You can't rationalize away suicide via a blog post. More likely it will actually bring to mi…
I think its true that you can't "rationalize away" suicidal thoughts but what you can do is provide an opportunity to recognize your or a loved one's extreme depression and start the process of getting help. That's how I read this post — as an attempt to provide an opportunity not a quick cure. For that IMO he ought to be commended.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank you. What do you suggest?
Hi raganwald. Your post might be dangerous. I am not an expert. It is worth further research. You can start with the following sections on Wikipedia to give you a gist of why it might be dangerous and then research further: - Journalism codes for reporting on matters related to suicide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_suicide#Journalism_code... - Social proof model for explaining copycat suicides: http://en.wiki…
Thanks for the feedback, I'm choosing to leave it up for now.
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#125I hope I can give people some context. I have never thought I would feel so down that I would consider ending my life. I don't mind poverty, I'm very flexible in relationships, lots of things in my life have not turned out the way I hoped. And of course, there are lots of things I never expected that have enriched my life (one of those things is programming).
But for the past 10 years I've been in pain every day. Even that is bearable (though most painkillers have no effect on my pain). The thing that has got me down though, is the pain that comes all through the night. Not being able to sleep night after night and the exhaustion that comes from it is the most depressing thing in my life.
Even then, I know things could be worse. I could be disfigured. I could have lost my sight.
Of course, those rationalisations are of little comfort when I'm being woken up for the 20th time, and bed feels like an implement of torture.
Most things in life are "fixable" if one changes one's attitudes and behaviour. But uncontrollable pain is depressing.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whenever I find myself having similar thoughts I reread Willa Cather's story, "Paul's Case", here's the relevant part, the very end: "He stood watching the approaching locomotive, his teeth chattering, his lips drawn away from them in a frightened smile; once or twice he glanced nervously sidewise, as though he were being watched. When the right moment came, he jumped. As he fell, the folly of his haste occurred to h…
Okay, so the last few years I've had time and means to travel, and I'd like to comment somewhat on a perspective I gained while doing so. The list you gave- I've done all of those things. Well, change Machu Picchu to Pompeii and Somalia to the Congo. I realize your list was not comprehensive- but let me realize the spirit of your post and say I've done a large subset of the "things I'd like to do before I die," save…
This resonates with me unfortunately well. Note that happiness has definite genetic links - twin studies show that it is a somewhat heritable trait, and some mechanisms have actually been found as to how it's heritable (for example, see http://jhfowler.ucsd.edu/genes_economics_and_happiness.pdf).
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#127 Simply call 1-800-273-TALK (8255) or in
Canada 1-800-448-1833
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#128What do you tell to someone who's decided that it's really quite pointless to continue working and living because the inevitable fate of the Universe coupled with the seeming inability to achieve sustained happiness?
To them living to make a difference is pointless because practically nothing survives Solar death, and nothing survives a maximizing of Universal entropy.
To them living for themselves is pointless because nothing brings sustained happiness. Solving problems, building things, etc. are just as much drugs as heroin. Once you've solved the problem you start seeking a new one. You can't be happy and satisfied with solving an important problem once.
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#129Suicide does not correlate with Christmas holiday, quite the opposite, since suicide rate actually drops [1].
While depressed people have higher risk of suicide, it's generally believed that most depression patients are more at risk when they are recovering from it, as their motivation returns[2].
[1] http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1734474...
[2] http://ps.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?Volume=60&pa...
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#130What do you tell to someone who's decided that it's really quite pointless to continue working and living because the inevitable fate of the Universe coupled with the seeming inability to achieve sustained happiness? To them living to make a difference is pointless because practically nothing survives Solar death, and nothing survives a maximizing of Universal entropy. To them living for themselves is pointless becau…
If they exhibit serious catatonic symptoms, you take them to the doctor immediately. Otherwise, you explain to them that whoever promised them that life has a meaning on its own was lying to them in the first place, and that people have to make life meaningful by themselves, and then to read some existentialists, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer or Camus.