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Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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DRM-free eBooks do exist, don't lump them all together!

Yes they do but it's extremely hard to find drm free books.

Interestingly, all German language e-books have been DRM free for a couple of years now. I have no idea how that happened, but at one point, all major publishers have pivoted from mandatory DRM to DRM-free (but watermarked) ePubs.

The notable exception is Amazon: Kindle books are almost always DRMed from the same publishers.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#122

Fortunately someone had the foresight to make a backup: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923 Z-library were in it for commercial gain (you could access a certain number of books but to get more you had to pay for a subscription). They started out as a fork of library genesis, whose mission has always been strictly non-commercial and about providing free access to everyone without limits. Hopefully this will…

Well damn, I guess I’ve gotta figure out how to get 30+TB of storage. Does anybody have any suggestions for doing that as cheaply as possible?

If you can't seed the whole collection, just seed a random portion. You can still cherry pick what you like.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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that might work, yes. I wouldn't expect it to last forever though because the US gov doesn't like jurisdictions that evade their power. Russians could seize it if they felt like it too. I have some experience with that. Ideally you would exploit bad diplomatic relations between nations to keep things running. Mutually non cooperative jurisdictions can actually be good for the internet. I do think the intention of the…

to, is, su, etc. There are enough TLDs to last a lifetime for a pirate site operator.

well .su is Russia. Not sure how to say this without pissing a lot of people off but it would not surprise me if there were some treaties they signed to cooperate with US LE in the not-so-distant future based on how things are going. Also they can seize the domain for themselves.

the .to domain I believe can be seized but I don't know the conditions. .is can be seized but it is rare. The other thing is that treaties can be changed and the US can strong-arm people. Right now they work, I don't know if they always will.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#124

All books should now have a link or paypal email at the back book cover so whoever read the book without pay, then find it useful and valuable, to have an effective way to send money over. yeah it's not ideal but, there might be quite some readers pay if they know how to do that easily.

But that would encourage pirates to create fake recipients (that sound very similar to original) to channel money into their own pockets. With this incentive one can invest effort in high quality scans or OCR, well-formatted ebooks (pirated), and replace that last lime of text with own ID and flood the internet with these copies.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#125

Purchased ebooks are like ebooks except you can only read them in Adobe's shitty app, you can't share them with your kids, and you are guaranteed to lose access to them in 10 years or tomorrow. I want to purchase ebooks, but I want to own what I purchase!

As someone who works in the ebook sector, I'll say that no one loves Adobe's DRM, whether it be the publisher, vendor or user. It's implemented by apps and such because of the network effect - other apps support it, and users want to be able to read Adobe DRMed content without trouble, and it was also the first big solution to the "problem" of ebook DRM. However, because people have to pay a fee to Adobe per license, vendors are not very happy about having to continue to tolerate it, so that provides for a great incentive to slowly get them to move to a more user-friendly alternative as long as it's zero-cost, which is what LCP is trying to solve.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#126

Fortunately someone had the foresight to make a backup: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923 Z-library were in it for commercial gain (you could access a certain number of books but to get more you had to pay for a subscription). They started out as a fork of library genesis, whose mission has always been strictly non-commercial and about providing free access to everyone without limits. Hopefully this will…

Holy shit! Did not see this coming, but glad we saved this collection just in time. (I'm Anna, the one who made the backup). We are working on hosting this collection, as well as saving other large collections. Please consider supporting us, donation details at http://pilimi.org (we'll set up a patreon-like system soon)

Note that their TOR domains are still up: http://zlibrary24tuxziyiyfr7zd46ytefdqbqd2axkmxm4o5374ptpc52... and http://loginzlib2vrak5zzpcocc3ouizykn6k5qecgj2tzlnab5wcbqhem...

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#127

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It blows my mind that in a hypercapitalist society like the US, that copyrights still exist. Copyrights are a massive violation of property rights, criminalizing merely observing something and independently reproducing it with your own private materials for your own non-commercial use. IMO it shakes to the core free market, capitalist, and founding principles of our nation.

> It blows my mind that in a hypercapitalist society like the US, that copyrights still exist. Copyrights are a massive violation of property rights, Ah, you’ve mistaken capitalism (which had been developing for centuries earlier) with 18th century liberal economic theory, which is not its foundation but instead a rough ex-post-facto rationalization for large parts of the way it had developed. What capitalism is, tho…

I think GP was using this definition:

>an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market[0]

>which had been developing for centuries earlier

The use of capital has existed for thousands of years already. One could make the case that there is no such thing as capitalism but rather the desire for the realization of interests. The ruling class "before capitalism" was also capitalist: the lords' power was derived from their capital- the land. The only real difference between the mercantile class and the landed gentry was the respect they commanded when it comes down to it.

[0]https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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https://www.wired.com/2012/03/feds-seize-foreign-sites/

So they need a ".ru" domain, or some us-unfriendly country then?

I wonder how far we are from partitioning the DNS with alternate roots. If the Ukraine war doesn't make it happen, DRM violations might.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#129

Fortunately someone had the foresight to make a backup: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32972923 Z-library were in it for commercial gain (you could access a certain number of books but to get more you had to pay for a subscription). They started out as a fork of library genesis, whose mission has always been strictly non-commercial and about providing free access to everyone without limits. Hopefully this will…

Holy shit! Did not see this coming, but glad we saved this collection just in time. (I'm Anna, the one who made the backup). We are working on hosting this collection, as well as saving other large collections. Please consider supporting us, donation details at http://pilimi.org (we'll set up a patreon-like system soon)

The Library Genesis forum is also down, but more likely because of overwhelming interest right now? https://forum.mhut.org/

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

#130
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If my local library already owns the book and it is not checked out, what is the difference between driving there to check it out and downloading it illegally online? The impact to the author is the same: absolutely nothing.

No, the impact is different. The library doesn't pay for the ebook just once. When the library buys the ebook, they're allowed to lend it a certain number of times before they have to buy the book again. Or they pay for a number of lends per day and payments for the books checked out are distributed to the appropriate publishers. The relationship between physical book checkouts and author/publisher revenue is less di…

The physical degradation of the books seems like such a minor effect. I'm pretty gentle with books. As for library ebooks, I had no idea the contracts were structured like that.
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