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Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by squeaky-clean »

adultSwim wrote: post #114

I'm uncomfortable with kneecapping every successful Chinese technology company. "US tech good, China tech bad" doesn't make sense to me.

It makes perfect sense to me why the US Government would take that stance. I don't agree with it, but it makes sense. Even if a US based company is tracking user location or audio or whatever privacy concerns, a couple letters with a government stamp on it can get the US Gov complete access to all that data. That's not the case for Chinese tech, and the Chinese government can do the same trick of gobbling up all that available data from companies in their jurisdiction.

Or I guess to put it another way, if you're dragnetting basically all possible user data from your citizens and non-citizens, wouldn't you assume "competing" countries are doing the same thing?

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Post by Dig1t »

adultSwim wrote: post #114

I'm uncomfortable with kneecapping every successful Chinese technology company. "US tech good, China tech bad" doesn't make sense to me.

China kneecaps all US companies inside of China. Most US companies are banned outright, and the ones that are allowed to operate inside the country are forced to be majority owned by a Chinese entity.

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Post by Arrath »

RadixDLT wrote: post #48

please look into https://www.parrot.com/us for dji alternative

I've used Parrot's ANAFI drone, actually thanks to the DoD blacklisting our DJI drones, and found it didn't measure up. It flies slowly, doesn't stationkeep in winds as well, is more prone to overheating, takes longer to boot, and other issues.

As another poster recommends, I'd suggest looking at Skydio.

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

photochemsyn wrote: post #61
magic_hamster wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This point came up in another comment, and it's definitely reasonable - but I still don't see why DJI would require your location when using products other than drones, which they do. And as I noted before, they are providing an app which has been axed from the official store. Aside from this, as I'm sure you're aware, any information that DJI collect has a nonzero chance of being handed over the the Chinese authorit…

This is a fairly broad problem across the whole phone app world, isn't it? For example, I bought an iOS app for LAN analysis, but then deleted it when it turned out it wouldn't work unless you gave it access to your physical location (I assume that was for their data marketing side business). Also, any data information collected by a US company also has 'a nonzero chance of being handed over to the American authoriti…

> I assume that was for their data marketing side business

You're confused: Their primary business is data marketing. LAN analysis or anything useful the apps might do are a side business at best.

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Post by Rebelgecko »

i_am_jl wrote: post #47
magic_hamster wrote: post #3

They are absolutely right to do this, and private users should be wary as well. DJI's application (Mimo) has been banned from the Android Play Store for some time, with no explanation given by DJI. They offer an APK to side load, which is completely unsupervised, and requires access to your phone's accurate location and other invasive permissions no matter which of their products you are using. This is an important d…

I haven't been keeping up with the legislation updates, but the FAA's proposal for positional reporting required the drone to report the location of the drone and the pilot . It seems to still be their objective under "Why do we need RemoteID" https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/remote_id/drone_pilo... >Remote ID helps the FAA, law enforcement, and other federal agencies find the control station when a drone appe…

Some of DJIs drones are small enough that they wouldn't have to follow that rule (the pilot GPS requirement is only for drones that are required to be registered with the FAA, aka those heavier than 250g. DJI very intentionally has a line of drones that weigh something like 248g)

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Post by RosanaAnaDana »

magic_hamster wrote: post #3

They are absolutely right to do this, and private users should be wary as well. DJI's application (Mimo) has been banned from the Android Play Store for some time, with no explanation given by DJI. They offer an APK to side load, which is completely unsupervised, and requires access to your phone's accurate location and other invasive permissions no matter which of their products you are using. This is an important d…

I wonder if its actually for a dgps application.

Two GPS signals, two clocks, wireless signals being transmitted. You might be able to do a time differential offset/ correction to get a much higher accuracy relative position (drone and phone are very confident in their relative positions).

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Post by ethanbond »

collegeburner wrote: post #101
firecall wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assault Rifles seem to be ok for the US government to place into the hands of US civilians.

^^^ this comment was posted by someone who does not know what an assault rifle is. it is very difficult and expensive to get ahold of a assault rifle these days and has been for almost 40 years. though yeah i think we should repeal that law, there is nothing wrong with civilians owning assault rifles. the federal government is literally not allowed to pass or enforce laws against this because it clearly infringes the…

Yes same for tactical nukes
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