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Didn't Maverick pull this off in Top Gun?

In Top Gun 2, he uses it twice. Once, during the training dogfight where Rooster has a chance to shoot him down (he says, "Too late, you had your chance" and then pulls off the maneuver, targeting Rooster instead afterwards). After the training dogfight, he is told by Cyclone, "...and I don't ever want to see that Cobra shit again. That could have gotten you both killed". The second time was towards the end when they…

Spoilers?

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post #102

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> The Iranian drones' amazing performance in Ukraine shows that warfare has changed forever. Do you have more information on that?

Not in easily accessible Western media, obviously. You have to follow Indian, Chinese or other unaligned sources. Indian outlets would be the easiest. However the best and most striking is to follow the Russian/Slavic channels in Telegram. The footage there is incredible (not gore). They post what Ukrainians post online - drones in flight just before hitting their target. Drones passing over. Multiple drones flying i…

you can search on youtube too. For instance, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9fXYvjxtYg&ab_channel=First...

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I did not Sweden was first to do the cobra maneuver with the Saab 35 Draken, fun. It is very impressive how little Sweden with SAAB have been able to develop stage of the art fighter planes. By exemple JAS 39 Gripen was the first 4th genereation fighter jet in the world, and many older fighterplanes set many records too.

I really like Draken, it is a beautiful plan. And I love this picture :D The timing and composition is perfect and I wounder what the person in the canoe thought haha.

https://i.imgur.com/EBxuaAa.jpg

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Surely the aerodynamics are better for firing a missile backwards. If you fire it forwards, the missile has to accelerate through whatever air resistance you're both already experiencing through even more air resistance to get to the target. That's hard. If you fire backwards, the missile uses air resistance to accelerate towards (i.e. slow down) towards the target. Even when it goes through 0mph relative to the air…

If you fire it backwards, when it first launches it will be traveling backwards relative to the airflow. So you would have to make a missile that can fly forwards or backwards. Probably not impossible but it must add some difficulty.

hmm, yeah that sounds challenging, but spacex does it when landing the first stage :)

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in easily accessible Western media, obviously. You have to follow Indian, Chinese or other unaligned sources. Indian outlets would be the easiest. However the best and most striking is to follow the Russian/Slavic channels in Telegram. The footage there is incredible (not gore). They post what Ukrainians post online - drones in flight just before hitting their target. Drones passing over. Multiple drones flying i…

This is interesting news about the iranian drones I haven't read anywhere. Indian and Chinese media is widely available on the web, surprising this hasn't come up. Can you provide a link to some stories? My own web search found this in Politico. So I don't think it's a secret kept from western media. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/26/iranian-drones-ukra...

Note that in general media only covers stories that they want to see covered. Especially in a war, there will definitely be explicit pressure on how the war is covered, and most journalists are anyway aligned with their home countries even when there is no government pressure.

So just like you wouldn't expect RT to cover Russian losses except perhaps in the most general terms, you shouldn't expect our own countries' losses to be covered by our own media other than in passing (even if it's obviously not as directly controlled as RT is).

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post #102

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> Unfortunately the circumstances where this is useful is very limited. Even worse: Advancing missile technology has mostly invalidated the need for aircraft in a major war since a long while, and drones will literally sweep what's left of it. The Iranian drones' amazing performance in Ukraine shows that warfare has changed forever. The drones can travel 1700 km autonomously, very hard to jam, and they are cheaper th…

> The Iranian drones' amazing performance in Ukraine shows that warfare has changed forever. Do you have more information on that?

They are not that amazing. At least those that are being most commonly used now, Shahed-136 "rebranded" as Geran-2 in Russia. They are rather slow and very noisy . Ukraine claims that 29 of them were shot down while 12 hit their targets. They had a benefit of surprise when they started being used, but not any longer.

BTW, people in Ukraine call those Shaheds "mopeds" because of their engine sound.

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post #127
post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Iranian drones' amazing performance in Ukraine shows that warfare has changed forever. Do you have more information on that?

They are not that amazing. At least those that are being most commonly used now, Shahed-136 "rebranded" as Geran-2 in Russia. They are rather slow and very noisy . Ukraine claims that 29 of them were shot down while 12 hit their targets. They had a benefit of surprise when they started being used, but not any longer. BTW, people in Ukraine call those Shaheds "mopeds" because of their engine sound.

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/a-video-featuring-the-destruction-...

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Is this useful and relevant in the age of 5th generation airplanes and current weapon (e.g. missile) technology ? My intuition tells me not

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in easily accessible Western media, obviously. You have to follow Indian, Chinese or other unaligned sources. Indian outlets would be the easiest. However the best and most striking is to follow the Russian/Slavic channels in Telegram. The footage there is incredible (not gore). They post what Ukrainians post online - drones in flight just before hitting their target. Drones passing over. Multiple drones flying i…

you can search on youtube too. For instance, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9fXYvjxtYg&ab_channel=First...

That video looks more like a commercial than a report on the actual performance of those "suicide drones".
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