Can someone explain what either of these two companies are actually selling, beyond the cryptic marketing messaging on their respective websites?
Someone in this thread indicated that Citrix was the original developer of Microsoft Remote Desktop, and later licensed it to Microsoft. All Citrix's website seems to offer is "One digital workspace platform to empower secure hybrid work".
Can someone explain what either of these two companies are actually selling, beyond the cryptic marketing messaging on their respective websites? Someone in this thread indicated that Citrix was the original developer of Microsoft Remote Desktop, and later licensed it to Microsoft. All Citrix's website seems to offer is "One digital workspace platform to empower secure hybrid work". And what's the deal with Tibco?
Myself I "grew up" in an X11 and Sun "the network is the computer" world. Have not used Citrix more than an hour, but my interpretation was that Citrix made a (huge) business out of Microsoft completely missing the network in the 90s. Both LAN and Internet. So yeah, they allow you to access a Windows computer over the net. Windows still exists so the business continues.
Can someone explain what either of these two companies are actually selling, beyond the cryptic marketing messaging on their respective websites? Someone in this thread indicated that Citrix was the original developer of Microsoft Remote Desktop, and later licensed it to Microsoft. All Citrix's website seems to offer is "One digital workspace platform to empower secure hybrid work". And what's the deal with Tibco?
We used Citrix at an old corporate job. It was an all-in-one corporate networking solution. We had 2fA keys and logins and citrix was the entire IP(Intellectual Property)-protection networking + vpn layer.
Citrix originally licensed the technology for the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) to Microsoft. RDP was a pared back version of Citrix, and the license terms left Citrix free to sell a with a more fully-featured virtualised desktop product running on top of Windows Server.
Wikipedia says "Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) is a proprietary protocol developed by Microsoft" and that "[the] Terminal Services Edition of NT 4.0 relied on Citrix's MultiWin technology, previously provided as a part of Citrix WinFrame atop Windows NT 3.51, in order to support multiple users and login sessions simultaneously". Based on this it sounds to me like the protocol itself was the work of Microsoft and that…
I worked at Citrix from 1996 thru 2000. In the early days, Citrix was licensing Windows NT (source code) from Microsoft and selling a modified version of it such that (a) one could remotely control/display Windows apps, and (b) multiple users could do this simultaneously. At a certain point (‘98?) Microsoft announced they would soon offer the same functionality as Citrix, and the stock got crushed. In the end, though, it seemed Microsoft decided the practical thing to do would be to roll their own version of “(a)” (dubbed “RDP”) and license “(b)” (back, as it were) from Citrix. At least I think it was something like that.
Feels like the beginning of the end for Citrix. I've deployed their various products since 1999, back in the NT4 Terminal Server edition. I have fond memories of running MS Word on UNIX terminals at university by connecting to Citrix running on NT4 on my home PC. Other students would walk past rows of screens in the computer lab all showing drab black and white fixed-width text editors except for one in the middle wi…
It's funny because I had an opposite kind of experience when I was in school in 2001, all the CS students needed to be in the labs to get the full unix experience but my friend and I figured out how to do xwindow forwarding to our windows PCs in the dorm and could work just like we were in the lab.
Feels like the beginning of the end for Citrix. I've deployed their various products since 1999, back in the NT4 Terminal Server edition. I have fond memories of running MS Word on UNIX terminals at university by connecting to Citrix running on NT4 on my home PC. Other students would walk past rows of screens in the computer lab all showing drab black and white fixed-width text editors except for one in the middle wi…
When I asked people who had already successfully made something work and they gave me replies such as "magic" it really used to frustrate me in the pre-internet days.
Especially in cases like this where they had their better "colourful WYSIWYG Windows application" while the rest of us are stuck on our "drab black and white fixed-width text editors"
Background on the deal. TIBCO was acquired by Vista Equity Partners 8 years ago and has been a disaster investment. Growth never picked up despite their investments in product, technology, sales and marketing. As a result, TIBCO was stuck selling better software from acquisitions to their existing customer base. Large cap private equity investors like Thoma Bravo, Silver Lake and Blackstone noticed TIBCO's failures m…
Thank you for the succinct analysis. It makes me wonder if the PE firms that think of these deals are borderline sociopaths - caring a lot more about money then people. It ALMOST reads as a sophisticated scam.
Wikipedia says "Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) is a proprietary protocol developed by Microsoft" and that "[the] Terminal Services Edition of NT 4.0 relied on Citrix's MultiWin technology, previously provided as a part of Citrix WinFrame atop Windows NT 3.51, in order to support multiple users and login sessions simultaneously". Based on this it sounds to me like the protocol itself was the work of Microsoft and that…
My understanding is that back in the early 2000s the Citrix ICA and Microsoft RDP protocols were nearly identical. Common code and all that. One of the reasons companies licensed Citrix is because Citrix kept investing in ICA and it was about 2-3 times as bandwidth efficient. In the era of 64 Kbps ISDN WAN links this was critical. Microsoft did something around 2008 and now RDP seems better overall. It can handle 4K…
Don't forget that Citrix had a Terminal Server offering before Microsoft incorporated it into Terminal Server. That was the big offer in my mind, not the RDP client, but the ability to connect multiple end users to one Windows NT server back in NT 3.51/4's early days.
Can someone explain what either of these two companies are actually selling, beyond the cryptic marketing messaging on their respective websites? Someone in this thread indicated that Citrix was the original developer of Microsoft Remote Desktop, and later licensed it to Microsoft. All Citrix's website seems to offer is "One digital workspace platform to empower secure hybrid work". And what's the deal with Tibco?
For Citrix, it was XenServer, XenClient, and XenDesktop when I was there? Also Go2Meeting, and a few other other stuff like that.
Can someone explain what either of these two companies are actually selling, beyond the cryptic marketing messaging on their respective websites? Someone in this thread indicated that Citrix was the original developer of Microsoft Remote Desktop, and later licensed it to Microsoft. All Citrix's website seems to offer is "One digital workspace platform to empower secure hybrid work". And what's the deal with Tibco?
Myself I "grew up" in an X11 and Sun "the network is the computer" world. Have not used Citrix more than an hour, but my interpretation was that Citrix made a (huge) business out of Microsoft completely missing the network in the 90s. Both LAN and Internet. So yeah, they allow you to access a Windows computer over the net. Windows still exists so the business continues. For Tibco I have no equivalent story to tell. E…
Tibco does/did middleware. When I used it 20 odd years ago, it provided a robust messaging system for apps across the enterprise. We used it to communicate between a half dozen systems where I worked as well as the middleware for the n-tier app I worked on, and it was pretty easy to use.