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Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

#122
Decentralization has never worked in human history beyond hunter gatherers.

It’s continually amazing to me that people listen to people like Musk and Dorsey as if they have a clue they know what they’re talking about. You can tell they have full confidence that they do, trapped in their bubble of fame.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

#123
post #58

Is he talking about ActivityPub[1, 2] and the Fediverse[3]? Just look at Mastodon[4, 5] if you're looking for something like twitter without the centralization and the corporate greed. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub [2] https://activitypub.rocks [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software) [5] https://joinmastodon.org/servers

It frustrates me that Jack seems to have genuine interest in this topic but seems to be totally averse to discussing Mastodon. It's hard to believe he's unaware of Mastodon, so we have to believe he thinks it's not the solution for some reason. But how could it not be? Why doesn't he just use his big name and significant influence to throw his weight behind Twitter's most successful open protocol competitor if he rea…

The problem is that he is trying to monetize the distribution of content. All his talk about decentralization is pointless, because he wants a system where there are gatekeepers, the only difference from Twitter (or Facebook/Google) is that in his view these gatekeepers should be baked into the protocol. It would be comical if it wasn't diabolical.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

#124
post #74

The chat thread looked so farcical that I had to double check it wasn't a parody account. Is it possible the text has been edited? It just looks too scripted, especially since Jack Dorsey had shared his thoughts regarding Twitter being intended as a protocol publicly.

It feels too clean to me. No typos, no emojis, correct punctuation…

> No typos

"get it's importance"

"Bout to head out to dinner"

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

#125
post #122

Decentralization has never worked in human history beyond hunter gatherers. It’s continually amazing to me that people listen to people like Musk and Dorsey as if they have a clue they know what they’re talking about. You can tell they have full confidence that they do, trapped in their bubble of fame.

Because centralization works REALLY well, right? That's why the US practices decentralized command, that's why centralized economies have been so successful. This idea that decentralization has never worked is insane.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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For someone invested in decentralized protocols, it just sounds like people trying to reinvent the wheel. "let’s make it decentralized" "wow, very cool idea". Those guys are business guys but they have no idea what they are talking about. They don’t know the first bit about technical decentralization, about prior art, about the politics involved. They are so close of realizing that their companies are Frankenstein mo…

> Twitter started as a protocol. It should have never been a company. That was the original sin. Dorsey seems to have figured it out.

That’s easy for him to say after he’s become a billionaire making it a company. Can one give any actual credence to such a sentiment?

I mean, Twitter is an internet version of Post-It notes. I don’t even know what he means that it started out as a “protocol”.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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post #72
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s pretty hard for even CEOs to control direction sometimes especially in big companies. A company is like a cthonic beast with many writhing tentacles that is in fact composed of thousands of cats. A black mass of cats, writhing, seeking, crawling toward anything that will increase its share price or get a cat promoted…

Companies are AI. http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/companies_are_ai.html

Ted Chiang has made a similar comparison, pointing out that corporations seem incapable of insight, much like the feared AI that might destroy the world: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tedchiang/the-real-dang...

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And so is Musk.

Is the work you do to your credit or your boss's? I fundamentally reject the argument that being financially invested in engineering projects makes him an engineer.

Here's the game he wrote at age 12 : https://blastar-1984.appspot.com/
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